On 10/07/2011 01:34 AM, Josh Dersch wrote:
Depends on the model, I suppose. Back when the original MacBook Pro
was introduced I was in the market for a decent laptop and the MacBook
fit the bill. It looked damned sexy, had a ton of horsepower and
seemed pretty durable.
It was indeed a very nice looking and very fast laptop but I was never
actually able to use it on my *lap* for very long -- it ran
*extremely* hot under anything more taxing than idle. The metal area
between the keyboard and the screen would get almost too hot to touch
under moderate loads and the underside was scorching hot as well. My
understanding is that this was a common complaint with this particular
model.
I have one of those. The problem is two fold. First, the heatsink is
on the bottom of the laptop - it's a big huge pair of copper pipes that
touch the CPU, GPU and northbridge and connect them to the bottom of the
case and the two blower fans, so heat mostly goes to the bottom. Of
course, hot air rises, so it escapes through the vent between the
display and the keyboard, and some comes out of the keyboard.
The 2nd problem is that these models were the ones that had thermal
compound put on them with a trowel, which cooked these poor beasts.
See:
http://blog.johnkutlu.com/search/label/thermal%20paste and
https://discussions.apple.com/message/12223482?messageID=12223482#12223482?…
These, which have ATI GPUs, and a few later nVidia models develp issues
with their GPUs due to the heat. The issue is supposedly that they get
so hot that the BGA connectors start to have their solder melt and show
display artifacts.
The extra heat tends to cook other things such as batteries and hard
drives too.
I'm sure they've worked out that particular problem since then :).
I believe they did. But they also added wonderful innovations such as
the pentalobolar screws to keep their owners from doing their own
repairs, such as replacing the now "permanent" batteries. (You can buy
special screwdrivers for these from iFixit and other places. Batteries
for these models are starting to become available too, since these came
out in 2009 and we're seeing the first batch of the batteries starting
to hold less of a charge.)
The one improvement to the newer unibody ones is that their hard drives
are easy to replace. The earlier models, you have a lot more screws to
undo, and you have to remove the keyboard to get at the hard drive.
OTOH, with the earlier ones, replacing the batteries and memory is very
easy.
Batteries are the very first things to die in a notebook (unless you
spill liquids in them, or drop them), then hard drives, then the
backlights slowly dim over time for the CF models. (Not sure if the LED
ones will dim over time.) Optical drives seem to go after a few years
too, so when the notebook's at home, I connect to an external USB one.
This push towards the replace your machine when the battery wears out
for notebooks does not win my loyalty. It's even worse for things like
ipods, iphones, and ipads. It's more like you're renting them and
paying for the year than buying them. And don't get me started on the
locked-in "store" stuff. (Instead of getting ipod, or an iPhone, I
added a micro sdhc card to my blackberry, which does have a replaceable
battery. While it doesn't have the best OS and the nicest mp3 player,
it's good enough for my needs, and it does have a physical keyboard.)
Did you also notice how you can't expand the storage in these iDevices,
while their android or blackberry counterparts all have microsdhc slots?
I still have much older pre-Jobs 68K and PPC PowerBooks that still run
to this day (though the batteries no longer work of course.)
I recently wanted a desktop computer, so I built a nice Hackintosh
instead of buying a macpro. The highest end MacPro at the time cost 2x
as much and only offered a 2.3GHz quad CPU. The one I built has a
3.4GHz CPU, so it was a no-brainer. I would have done the same with the
notebook if the Chimera software worked fully for something like a nice
high end Thinkpad, it wouldn't surprise me if it will do so eventually.
As long as open source drivers for Linux exist, they can be ported to
work with OS X.
I loved the old IBM Thinkpad hardware, not sure if the newer ones from
Lenovo are built to the same high quality as IBM made them. Hopefully
they are. They're easily $1000 less for roughly the same configuration.