12 Feb
2014
12 Feb
'14
12:50 a.m.
On 02/12/2014 02:26 AM, Derrick wrote:
On 2/12/2014 12:17 AM, tom wrote:
Build our own. ASUS A7N8X-X 462(A) NVIDIA nForce2 400 ATX AMD
Motherboard
http://www.newegg.com/product/product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131468. Use
Athlon processor if you can. Duron good, but athlon much better.
Probably find on ebay or similar
On 02/12/2014 12:28 AM, Derrick wrote:
well i ran 98se is what it was and the optiplex gx50 decided it
wouldnt boot past the avg boot time scanner all it does is after it
does the boot time scan it goes to a black screen and sits there it
wont boot to anything. i also have bad luck finding good 98 or vintage
computers
On 2/11/2014 9:45 PM, Jim Stephens wrote:
I run 98SE on ASUS mobo w/AMD Athlon. That's even better performance
than a P4. 98SE runs very well on it. I run Autocad, Photoshop and
Illustrator and other Adobe stuff on it. No problems. Get 98SE if you
can instead of 98. Works much better. As mentioned earlier I can run
old hardware such as SCSI large format scanner, and large format
printers on it. I have a vmware image. I'll see if i can
find an installer ISO
The comment about being off topic is not true. I don't like Fords,
but let people collect them. Also if you need to get a Ford going
to do something useful and the topic were relevent to a list about
old fords, it should be on topic overall to such a list
If you started delving too far into topics about things not related
to classic hardware you'd be better to take them to a windows
forum. But asking how to get classic hardware running with older
devices / hardware and specific topics to that is on target.
Reason being.
The hardware for the x86 PC progressed from an 8088 thru a 286,
386, 486, and Pentium.
The Dos and windows platforms operated in ways that were unique, in
this way.
Original 8088 in pure 8088 real mode. 286 introduced protected
mode but still had to deal with return to real mode and booted and
ran as a real mode OS going into protected mode and back. I
believe Windows 3.1 used a mode that was somewhat different than
win95, but the essential thing for dos, Win3.1 and win95 were all
real mode that ran another mode, but basically were real mode OS's.
Windows 98 booted almost directly into protected mode and created a
dos box to run such software as had required real mode.
From there on, the transition was to Windows NT and that is a whole
different can of worms.
A lot of hardware out there deals only with the various windows
platforms, and it is not acceptable to at least be considerate of
questions which relate to the topic of windows related to the older
custom hardware.
Just as an example a lot of the affordable high performance
scanners that have created Bitsavers require older windows and then
still barely run, and getting help to support such should not be
banned.
Jim
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i think ur so right jim, with old computers some people still want
to use them cause they may do things that newer computers might not
do. i know 98 can run even on a p4 machine but only limited to 512mb
of ram. 98 had the issue with any amount of ram over 512mb. the
computer i tried to run 98 on was an optiplex gx50 with 512mb of ram
max and a 1.10ghz celeron. the optiplex gx50 has a windows 98se
serial on it but also has a designed for windows xp but running xp
on the computer it runs super slow. idk what to really do with the
old optiplex gx50 other then to try to run 98 but yea. some piece of
software i put on it must have made 98 not able to boot. idk for
sure what i am going to do with that machine. i do want something
that will run 98 like be designed to run 98 but yea its hard to find
98 machines these days.