23 Oct
2018
23 Oct
'18
3:41 a.m.
On Mon, 22 Oct 2018 at 22:54, Grant Taylor via cctalk
<cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
On 10/22/2018 08:14 AM, Liam Proven via cctalk wrote:
See my comments in the other thread.
It's pointless to compare environments from _before_ Win95 as a way of
saying that Win95 didn't influence them!
And plain WMs aren't desktops. In my long comment in the other thread,
I've been very generous in what I'm calling a "desktop" but at the
least it has to be a cohesive environment offering accessory programs
and features such as file management, text editing, and so on.
A bunch of terminals in a window manager are not a "desktop environment".
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*Every* Unix desktop out there draws on Win95.
Nope. That's simply not true.
The following three vast families of window managers / desktops prove
(to my satisfaction) that your statement is wrong.
? Common Desktop Environment (a.k.a. CDE) and it's ilk.
? The various *Box window managers / desktop environments.
? Motif window manager and it's ilk.
They are all significantly different from each other and from Windows's
Explorer interface, first publicly debuting with Windows 95.
The Win95 Explorer re-wrote the book on OS UI
design.
"A" book, maybe. I don't think it was "the" book.
The _only_ company to resist was Apple, because
of course, some of the
reasons that Win95 is the way it is are attempts to do things differently
from Apple so as not to get sued.
I think /company/ is critical in that statement as it implies for profit
business which excludes many other non-business related options. Even
then, IBM, Sun, HP, etc were releasing commercial Unixes with CDE and /
or Motif after Windows 95.