C (was: The iAPX 432 and block languages)

On Tue, 11 Apr 2017, Jecel Assumpcao Jr. via cctalk wrote: Or were you implying that nothing worthwhile has ever been written for 80x86 (in ANY language?)? That would be harder to argue with. C's greatest weakness, and C's greatest strength, is that it lets you do things that you shouldn't. (Such as putting a pointer into an int, etc.) As Holub titled one of his books, C gives you "enough rope to shoot yourself in the foot". If you stick to only doing things "the way that you are supposed to", then C code is actually pretty portable. But what's the fun in THAT? You have to take full responsibility for what you do with C. It is YOUR responsibility to decide what casts are safe to do. It is YOUR responsibility to put in all runtime error checking - if you don't check every denominator for a zero value, then any resulting black holes are YOUR responsibility. If you are sure that nothing can ever be out of range, then you can save object code by not putting in runtime error checking. The problem is, of course, that too many people are "sure", that shouldn't be. Hence, you get an amazing amount of software that can never be truly reliable. For example, if you know for sure that no file will ever be larger than 2GB, then you can get away with using a signed 32 bit "long" int for file size, or simply printf("%ld", FILESIZE) for displaying it. (Try using a sector editor (such as DEBUG) and changing the last 4 bytes of a DOS Directory entry to FFFF FFFFh.) I am, of course, embarrassed by the quality of most of the code that I have ever written. -- Grumpy Ol' Fred cisin at xenosoft.com