Verilog VHDL ASIC FPGA..

Wow! Thanks for the education guys. Listening to the cross talk about Verilog, VHDL, ASIC and FPGA then cross checking via Google really shows I have been out of touch. I still design via transistors and discrete components --electronics is still only a hobby for me even my lab shows it with a 15 year dual trace scope; Anyway before I go off and buy some type of kit to play with these technologies maybe one of you can tell me of a cost effective product that will give me good hands on exposure to these technologies. Thanks Michael --- On Sun, 3/22/09, dwight elvey <dkelvey at hotmail.com> wrote: From: dwight elvey <dkelvey at hotmail.com> Subject: RE: CompuPro CPU-68000 / VHDL vs TTL To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk at classiccmp.org> Date: Sunday, March 22, 2009, 11:34 AM ---------------------------------------- and making a CPU these das. mistook VHDL for a general purpose progamming language. Hi The problem is that things like VHDL and Verilog are really just maps of the silicon territory. They are not a complete definition. When pushing silicon to the speed limits with engineered circuits, there are times when the circuit just doesn't map everything into a descriptive language. Most people think that the ASIC flow is the primary method of creating new processors. That is only true if your not interested in creating the ulimate processor. As mentioned, this flow is great for a large number of embedded processors. The speed needed for these is typically at the lower end of things. I work for a company that creates processors, although we use a high level language to describe the architecture, we create many cicuits that could not be created by an automatic process. We use standard cells when performance isn't needed but many man years goes into optimizing the key circuits. Dwight _________________________________________________________________ Get quick access to your favorite MSN content with Internet Explorer 8. http://ie8.msn.com/microsoft/internet-explorer-8/en-us/ie8.aspx?ocid=B037MS…