Subject: RE: A Hobbyist DECnet Network
From: "Robert Armstrong" <bob at jfcl.com>
Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 16:37:06 -0800
To: "'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'" <cctalk
at classiccmp.org>
As to doing ove the internet, DSL,
DSL? What's DSL? You don't mean the phone line, DSL ?
Yep, or more specifically ADSL over phone lines.
and floating addresses are a problem.
If you mean DECnet addresses, then yes, we'd have to have some
coordination of the addresses used. WE can just assign people a block of
addresses; I doubt that we'll have enough members for it to be a real
management problem.
Not the DECnet addresses the IP addresses.
There used to
be a TOAD on the net (DEC system20 or
somesuch), Is it still?
As it happens I know a guy with an XKL machine in his apartment that might
be willing to connect. Don't know if we're talking about the same person.
I dont think it's the same person, I can't be sure. But yes the XKL be it
and the node/machine name was TOAD.
More money
that I can devote right now (power too). But
interesting to follow and maybe later..
What's the money required? If you already have a VAX then you're set.
Power is an expense, of course, but you don't have to leave your node up
24x7.
I already have a uVAX2000 running Ultirix as firewall so I guess I could.
The problem is when I run VMS on the others I'm used to running a few
as I don't want them to be lonely. ;)
Actually a
MicroVAX2000 with a RD54 is enough for routing if you can
shoehorn the OS and enough ram in it. Routing is not a high
cpu usage problem.
Yeah, but a 4000/VLC takes less power, less space, and boots lots (lots!!)
faster. It's the lowest power budget (and therefore cheapest to operate
24x7) VAX I know of.
Really? The uVAX2000 power supply maxes at 160W though the 3100m10s and
M76s are not much more. Also the uV2k is only .5cuft I think there are
smaller pizza boxes though. I happen to like that the UVAX2000 actually has
a handle!
[The first "personal" VAX I ever owned was
a VS2000, around 1989/1990. I
used to come home, turn it on, and I could make dinner while I waited for it
to boot and start DECwindows!]
I have three of them, one is used for formatting disks both floppy and hard.
My first uVAX was a MicroVAX-II in BA23, still have it.
There are two 3100m76, three VAXserver3100, Two MicroVAX-11s in my collection
of uVAX and at least four Storage expansion boxes, two TLZ04 tapes, and a pair
of TZK-50s. I had a bunch more when U Vermont stopped using uVAX for mail
servers years ago. About half run VMS5.44 under unlimited license and the rest
7.2 under hobbiest license.
The rules around here is if it don't dim the neighborhood lights and it fits
in the room I can keep it. Right now the room is cubed out.
Allison