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"I am still wondering why the IBM5100 gets regarded as a significant machine when the HP9830 was a couple of years ealier and had a very similar specificiation." In a word - exposure. HP stuff is oftentimes a tad esoteric for the *usual* goofy collector or whatever you call peeps who are into this stuff. results in it not being "Maybe. I think it's a bit of a strange requirement, though." Yes, and a real man's puter has toggle switches and nixie displays anyway LOL. "http://www.hpmuseum.org/" Very well done site, a little hard to find certain information though (for me anyway). a shop and exit with one Truthfully, how does this arise as a criteria? What about units (that appeared later) with integral 12" CRT's. Cuz the average chick or many dudes even couldn't tuck it under their arm and go on their merry way, does that make it any less a *personal* computer? If it won't crush the desk beneath it, I'd say that qualifies it as a pc. "off-the-shelf" puter is a puter you special questions, complete computer, Again ancillary terminology is being introduced. Who says a pc has to be "off the shelf" in the sense that you can reach up and pull one down. Expressing availability as "off the shelf" seems a bit arbitrary. ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545469