Oh, sorry, didn't realize they used switchers for the PDP-11s.
However I was talking with a friend of mine last night about my error,
and he told me that the switching supplies for the PDP-11s were very
unreliable back in the day. He often had to troubleshoot the machines
back then. A common failure was caused by static electric shock to the
machine would blow the supply. NO carpets allowed!!
John :-#)#
On 07/17/2015 2:19 PM, Jay Jaeger wrote:
Ummmm - his PDP-11/34 most certainly does use
switching power
regulators. ;)
On 7/17/2015 4:06 PM, John Robertson wrote:
> On 07/17/2015 11:53 AM, Mouse wrote:
>>> I do find this witch-hunt against capacitors to be curious, given how
>>> few I've found to have failed. I suspect a lot of it comes from
>>> audiophools who think this is the way to fix anything...
>> Perhaps. But not all of it, certainly. I'm currently four for four
>> fixing dead flatscreens by re-capping their power supplies; I imagine
>> others have similar experiences. It's not a huge stretch to imagine
>> that other power supplies may have similar issues; even if it turns out
>> to not be the case, there is probably at least a little "can't hurt
>> anything, right?" running around.
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> This is not surprising given the vintages of the machines. Modern
> machines using switching power supplies (15kHz+) must have capacitors
> with low ESR and high capacity to run properly.
>
> Older linear power supplies ran at 50/60hz and as such the capacitors
> had much less ripple current (and low frequency to boot) to deal with
> and the engineers typically over designed the values of capacitors to
> allow for some degradation. The machines you are playing with cost
> fortunes back in the day - they HAD to be reliable as possible.
>
> Modern caps run at or near their rated temperature (105C) last around
> 1,000 to 5,000 hours. The old linear supplies rarely heated the caps
> much over 40C and thus the caps would last decades...I put fans on our
> LCD monitors in our games and they last just fine.
>
> No fan? Expect a year or two at most before failure.
>
> John :-#)#
>