24 Aug
2002
24 Aug
'02
7:04 p.m.
--- Sellam Ismail <foo(a)siconic.com> wrote:
So how come none of you C64 experts piped up to tell me that the video
connector on the C64 changed over time? The later one had more pins, and
the C64 video cable (that I searched all over for and finally found) only
plugs into the newer style connector. It won't plug into the older ones
because there are too many pins.
Only the Rev A mobo has 5 pins. Most (nearly all surviving) units
have a DIN-8 video connector, but only the 5 pins of a DIN-5 are
essential to get sound and video.
Worse, I can't get the video to work if I plug the
cable into the back of
the 1702. I can only get it to work with the composite connector on the
front. Maybe it's because I still don't have the right cable. Whatever.
This is a nightmare.
Since you haven't mentioned if you are familiar with the 1702, let me
ask a (possible dumb) question - do you have the switch on the back
in the correct position? It's one way to use the chroma/luma inputs
on the back, the other way to use the composite input on the front.
If you want to use the chroma/luma inputs (recommended since they produce
a sharper image), start by identifying your cables. Look at the back
of the C-64 manual and use a continuity meter to verify which color RCA
jack is chroma and which is luma on your particular cables. Once
you have it set, just move the DIN-5 from machine to machine to verify
if they produce video or not.
See, this is why I have such a poor opinion of the
Commodore 64. Sure,
technically it's a nice computer. But practically, it's a pile of shit.
If you ensure you have the right cable, it's trivial. One "problem"
with them using a generic connector for video is that people will
try anything that fits. I used to use an *audio* DIN-5 to RCA cable.
It had red, black, grey and white taps. It did *not* match the
color scheme of the 1702, but that's *my* fault for not paying for
a Commodore cable.
-ethan
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