29 Jul
1999
29 Jul
'99
4:30 a.m.
-----Original Message-----
From: CLASSICCMP-owner(a)u.washington.edu
[mailto:CLASSICCMP-owner@u.washington.edu]On Behalf Of Joe
Sent: Thursday, July 29, 1999 9:59 AM
To: Discussion re-collecting of classic computers
Subject: RE: Tek 4041
At 08:57 PM 7/28/99 -0500, Roger wrote:
The thing I really need is the diagnostics tape.
< Good luck finding one. I have never seen a factory tape of any
kind.
This tape is/was standard issue with all 4041 - according to
everything I've seen so far. which consist of 2 4041 manuals and 3
or 4 Tek catalogs.
The manual states
that you can use an RS-232 terminal for programming
this thing
That's news to me but like I said I've never found a manual for
them.
- and
then goes on to explain how to make an autostart tape
to tell the
4041 to use a serial port as the standard programming I/O port.
< Does the manual say if you can write the programs on annother
machine and
<record them to tape and then use the tape in this one? HP makes a
similar
<box called a HP 9915. It's basicly a HP 85 in a small box with no
display,
<keyboard and an optioal tape drive. You can write your programs on
a
<regular 85 and record them on tape ih an "Autost" file and then put
the
<tape in the 9915 and it will load it automaticly.
No! Not at all. The manual states that you can (and should) use an
RS-232 terminal as the 'systems console' if you will. This is for
communications with and programming of the 4041 - an I/O device.
BTW, UPS just left a HP 87XM on my porch - more wasted nights on the
way!! (Don't you just love $30.00 computers!)
And
of course I never meant anything ill about process
control or the
IEEE-488 bus(HP-IB - GBIBP whatever), but I have noticed that a lot
of folks do seem to look down upon machines that they have (in
their
minds anyway) abstracted down to nothing more that
simple black
boxes.
< That's not true of the folks on this list. They're very into
computers
< that are used as controllers.
For this Guys - I'm very thankful. I'm a member of Analog Heaven, a
place where we talk about analog synthesizers. You don't use the D
word else your bombarded with hate mail, so I've learned to tread
softly.
Learn everything their is to know about a Commodore C-64 or
even a Motorola D5 board and you have acquired more
knowledge than
most windows programmers about what really is going on, think?
You know it!
Joe