organizing a trip to Cuba

Jonathan Katz wrote: [..] Jonathan, I think it is _really_ naive to think that the Soviets gained any big knowledge from that old Mainfraimes. The soviets build the sputnik, atomic bombs and intercontinental ROckets w/o to find such things on cuba at all. There was'nt any technological difference betwenn the US and the USSR at this time. Please, please all americans, don't think that russians are stupid. There was always a _really_ big difference between consumer and military electronics at the times of the iron curtain in the USSR. Don't ever think that they have something to copy to get things (nevertheless they always copy something, but chineses are more bad..1) ). Next thing that I really whish to get recogniced: No one can win a war anymore, even not the americans or the NATO. ...that only since I hear that rattle of sabers again from the US and German Government. They have droven Putin in to a corner with that ukrainian "Revolution" and there is nothing curious or not understandable in the sight of what he does now. As for IBM's claims.. maybe the cuban government can write an Invoice for the costs of the Pigs Bay Invasion to the US government and then use that money to pay the bill? 1) Yes they copied the PDP11 and the VAX.... but, They made an VAX Chip that's compatible to the VAX730...and we all know that the VAX730 ist not an one chip solution as the russian chip is. Is that a copy at all? There are an entire row of PDP11 Microprocessors, K1801VM 1,2,3, N1806VM2 the same as the K1801VM2 in CMOS and others, chips that in this form never where build from DEC. Look at the MK90 here: http://www.pisi.com.pl/piotr433/ The MK90 is PDP11 compatible.... Regardl, Holm -- Technik Service u. Handel Tiffe, www.tsht.de, Holm Tiffe, Freiberger Stra?e 42, 09600 Obersch?na, USt-Id: DE253710583 www.tsht.de, info at tsht.de, Fax +49 3731 74200, Mobil: 0172 8790 741