Christer O. Andersson wrote:
On Tue, Dec 20, 2005 at 07:10:36AM -0600, Doc Shipley
wrote:
Where's your code, Mr. Mouse? And the rest
of whoever's having an
issue with this? What are YOU doing for the community?
They could help with ImageDisk if the source was available.
Dave Dunfield is producing working tools, *free
of charge*. He's
taking suggestions for features and fixes, he's made his image format
freely available. But it's his, to do with and to distribute as he pleases.
And that is a problem. If you rely on his tools, and find it
malfunctions in some way, you cannot fix the problem without the
source. If Dave is not supporting his tool anymore for some reason,
your stuck. Your saved disk might be lost. If the source is available
you can either fix it yourself or arrange with somebody to fix it
for you.
Ahhhhhhhhrrrrrrrrrrrrggggggggggggg.
Christer, you are talking in hypotheticals. You have open source religion.
Dave was going to release the source, just not yet. Yes, perhaps he is too
sensitive about it, but it is his code.
So far it seems like there are three groups of people:
(1) those who don't care one way or another
(2) those who were using his programs and were happy with the situation
(3) open source bigots who insist that the world should adhere to their vision
of things. for you and others, it is a polemic exercise.
so group #3, who aren't using the software, are now happy because they have
somehow purified the world in some abstract and hypthetical way. group #2,
including me, are now harmed materially. some in group #1 have also lost
something, although they won't realize that a year from now when they ask the
list for a boot disk to machine xyz and it isn't available.
open source existed before any of this came up. yet it didn't somehow magically
cause a solution to spring into existance. it was the efforts of an individual
who made it happen. now Dave has "died the death of 1000 cuts" and shut down.
Yes, an open source solution would be great. BUT ONE DOESN'T EXIST. The one
that was real and was on track to becoming open source died in the crib. Any
benefit of OS is just a mental exercise until then.
As for losing a disk -- you obviously are a sideline kibitzer. Dave did
document his format. It is trivial (a header with some fixed fields and one
variable field for holding a disk label, then a straight linear sector dump).
He even included some tools for converting to/from a raw sector dump. Have you
used his tools? Looked at what he was offering? Why do you feel fit to comment
on it if you haven't?
Personally I'm disgusted by the purists who think they've achieved something
here. You had nothing to lose. I did, and I've lost it.
Thanks for your help.