20 May
2002
20 May
'02
3:28 a.m.
So what you're saying is, you want a magic "on-topic/off-topic" filter.
Which
basically comes down to the list being 100% moderated. Which is something
people have said they don't want, and I agree... You can't have your cake and
eat it too, Sellam. If you want to get rid off all the off-topic stuff,
you're going to miss some on-topic stuff that gets caught in the noise no
matter what method you choose. If we were using your proposal, you would be
bitching because people wouldn't be 100% self-policing. Please make your
choice and stop whining. I'm really sick of hearing about how the list change
didn't turn out to be implemented according to your pet idea of how the list
should be run.
Really, this applies to everyone who keeps complaining, not just Sellam. I
think Jay did a great job with the list change, and we should all give it a
couple months (at least) to see how well it works before starting a new round
of proposals for changing the list.
Sellam Ismail said:
On Fri, 17 May 2002, Jay West wrote:
- Dan
Wright
(dtwright(a)uiuc.edu)
(http://www.uiuc.edu/~dtwright)
-] ------------------------------ [-] -------------------------------- [-
``Weave a circle round him thrice, / And close your eyes with holy dread,
For he on honeydew hath fed, / and drunk the milk of Paradise.''
Samuel Taylor Coleridge, Kubla Khan
Here's how it is currently handled. In the
scenario that Sellam puts forth,
no - the reply from someone on cctalk to a post that originated on cctech
will NOT go back to cctech. You can't have it both ways people - either the
people on cctech see posts on cctalk or they don't. The people who have
joined cctech did so specifically because they DIDN'T want to see posts on
cctalk. As a result, I'm sure not going to force them to see posts on
cctalk. (more below)
The problem is that many relevant (and on-topic) replies will be missed by
those on CCTECH, thereby penalizing them for not wanting to see off-topic
crap.
I'd always envisioned that everyone would be subscribed to CCTECH,
and then anyone who wanted to start an off-topic thread or continue a
thread that has gone off-topic could move over to CCTALK to take it up
there. THOSE folks could subscribe to both lists so that they could have
a place to blab all they wanted.
That's what I thought this whole upgrade was about.
Yes, it will work, but the responsibility is the
choice of the list member,
not mine. If one wants to see posts on both, they should join both lists.
However, keep in mind that most people won't want to join both, they will
only want one or the other. In the end, it's the users choice.
What's the point of CCTECH then?
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