26 Nov
2018
26 Nov
'18
12:44 a.m.
On Mon, 26 Nov 2018 at 01:00, Grant Taylor via cctalk
<cctalk at classiccmp.org> wrote:
Yep. The Scandinavians have just 3 extras.
Czech has about a dozen.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Czech_orthography
42 letters (!).
If they are not seen as separate letters, then do their meaning's
change? Or is the different accent more for pronunciation?
No, mainly, it changes alphabetical order and it makes asking questions tricky.
I see ? as an s-with-a-ha?ek and if I forget the ha?ek, I may
pronounce it as an s; ? = ``sh'' in English. ``?'' = "ch" in
English.
But that isn't how Czechs think. It's as impossible to misread or
mispronounce ? as S as it would be a nonsense to mispronounced ``T''
as ``M'' in English, so people find it very hard to guess what I mean.
To me, the diacritic modifies a letter, and in a word with 4 or 5
diacritics, they pile up in my head, I overload and may drop one or 2
of them. That renders the world as babel in Czech.
(I chose T/M because, incredibly to me, hand-written T in Russian is
written as M. Mind you, handwritten almost everything in Russian
becomes mmmmmMmmmMmmmmMmm. I can read printed Cyrillic but I find
handwritten stuff impossible.)
I assume that they have different meanings (if that
applies to letters)
and are uses as different as "A" and "q".
Yes.
Czech is like
that. ? and ? and ? and many more that my Mac can't
readily type are _extra letters_ which come after the unmodified form
in the alphabet.
~twitch~ I don't even know how to properly describe
something that visually looks
like letters (glyphs?) to me, but may be an imprecise simplification on
my part.
If it's in Roman, Cyrillic, or Greek, they're alphabets, so it's a letter.
I can't read Arabic or Hebrew but I believe they're alphabets too.
I don't know anything about any Asian scripts except a tiny bit of
Japanese and Chinese, and they get called different things, but
"character" is probably most common.
I had to zoom my font to see enough detail in
K?i??kova, but it does
look like things came through just like you describe. (They even made
it through my shell script that I use to re-flow text in replies.)
Good!
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