26 Jan
2013
26 Jan
'13
3:01 a.m.
Sellam is never going to get this collection restored. 'Possession is 9/10th' of
the law is a sad reality. Even under a theft by receiving scenario, the products are
being spread out to 100 different buyers in 100 different jurisdictions. He needed an
injunction and he needed it two weeks ago.
Even if he successfully makes a case in court that his land lord didn't give him
sufficient notice of foreclosure under California and local law, he sill has to file suite
against tvrsales for recovery; who btw has done nothing wrong - morally or legally. His
grievance is against his former land lord.
It's sad, but Keith does make good points. We can all oogle over what we think the
collection is worth to a prime buyer or to Sellam. The reality is courts deal in current
market value. Even winning against his land lord, the sale prices being offered up the
past few weeks may form a basis for a financial judgement against his land lord or
tvrsales since the jurisdictional issues are so big with buyers. A California circuit
court cannot enforce a warrant on a buyer in Georgia. Even if issued, the Georgia
jurisdiction will say, "we need to go recover a $40 what?"
Not bidding only helps if the auction doesn't sell. Otherwise, it is only helping the
people who are winning the items at lower prices.
-Alan
Sent from my iPad
On Jan 25, 2013, at 11:33 PM, Keith Monahan <keithvz at verizon.net> wrote:
On 1/25/2013 9:39 PM, Gary Oliver wrote:
My eBay 'watch list' is getting full of
Sellam's stuff :-( Things I
would love to have but won't touch under the current circumstances
are flying by every day.
And I know many of the items would (should) fetch much more than
they seem to be getting... It's very sad this is happening... I've
seen several important items I *know* must be one-of's that should
be conserved.
Gary,
I'm not really directing this at you, but maybe the group in general.....
Wouldn't someone in the community purchasing these items at least keep them in
trusted hands? I mean, what's really the alternative?
Also, I apologize for the double negative but doesn't the fact that some/most/all of
the community isn't bidding on the stuff artificially deflating the price? I mean,
isn't it selling for less because other normally-interested bidders aren't
bidding?
And sure, I understand that the idea might be to reduce the total take of the
so-called-evil-reseller (not judging here, really) but then why be unhappy when you're
successful?
So then what happens? Someone who doesn't really care much about the items win them
at a lower price? And then resell the item later at a profit. And instead of US profiting,
we let someone else do it because it's blood money.
But for how many generations is this item poisoned for? First resale is clearly bad(I
guess). How about the second? The third? How do we even know if it's part of the evil
collection?
And while we are talking about this, why not talk about people buying foreclosed homes?
Surely that is profiting off of other people's misfortune/loss? Repo'd cars? Lost
items at airport auctions? Items at Pawn shops?
This is unfortunate indeed. I just hope that not too many of these items end up leaving
the community as a result of our own actions.
Keith