14 Jul
2000
14 Jul
'00
3:05 a.m.
Dammit - I was offered a Mac IIfx last week but
didn't get to it fast
enough
- he only wanted ukp25 for it which was fine by me. To
run it on a IIci
would I need to get a proper video card in order to free up some system
RAM?
The other Macs I've got are Plus, Classic, Classic
II, Colour Classic, II,
IIci, and LC2. Next week I might be getting a Performa 475 but aren't they
the same machine as the LC2?
AKAIK, yes, they are basically the same.
As to requirements, I'm not sure what Squeak needs. I do also have
it on the IIci, and it's happy with ther Radius Rocket. I just don't
run the IIci without the rocket very often.
Dangerous upgrade device, the Radius Rocket. It draws power thru
the NuBus connector, and IIRC, out of the NuBus spec. They shoulda
added a separate power connector... I full expect my IIci to go
up in smoke some day.
-dq
-----Original Message-----
From: Douglas Quebbeman [mailto:dhquebbeman@theestopinalgroup.com]
Sent: 14 July 2000 15:15
To: 'classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org'
Subject: RE: Another tech legend for discussion!
still prefer
I've seen a document that described SmallTalk
and thought
it still looks
better than anything I've seen up to now; I
think you're
right about the
Star though, from what I remember of the
Horn/Raskin
discussion. I knew
Bruce Horn he was one of the SmallTalk developers
though,
dunno why I
didn't
mention it.
Although I run Squeak under Windows and on a Power Mac, I running the original Xerox Smalltalk-80 VI2.2
under System
6 on a Mac.
I have it on a IIci, but the IIci has a Radius
Rocket in it, and the
virtual machine doesn't like its 68040. I have a Mac IIfx
I'll be running
it on in the near future, at almost twice the speed of the
IIci's '030.
I'll have to run the benchmarks, but I think it runs at 0.5 Dolphin.
-dq
>
> cheers
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Douglas Quebbeman
[mailto:dhquebbeman@theestopinalgroup.com]
> > Sent: 14
July 2000 13:58
> To:
'classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org'
> Subject: RE: Another tech legend for discussion!
>
>
> I have it on good authority that Smalltalk-80 was not ported
> to the Star.
> It was running on the Alto and the Dolphin at the time, as
> well as another
> Xerox workstation whose name I can't recall. Larry Teslar was
> working at
> PARC at the time, and ended up following Jobs back to
Apple, because
> Xerox couldn't get their asses in gear
and Apple looked
like it knew
> > what it was doing (w/r/t getting new technology out the door).
> >
> > For those interested in what Smalltalk-80 feels like to
> play with, you
> > should try Squeak, a successor developed by some of > > authors, Alan Kay and Dan Ingalls, at
Disney. Squeak is
everything
> ST80
was and more.
>
> You can find info about Squeak at:
http://www.create.ucsb.edu/squeak/