On 06/04/2013 01:32 PM, Liam Proven wrote:
On 4 June 2013 17:10, Dave McGuire <mcguire at
neurotica.com> wrote:
Of course. But why I said what I said above,
out of exasperation, is that
you call architectures that are currently developed, sold, and used, and have
been for decades, with no end in sight, "failures". That's insane.
They went up against Intel. They used to come in a wide variety of
machines: low-end to high-end desktop, laptop, small server, big
server.
They don't any more. Now they are high-end or nothing.
...which is where they belong. Sun *workstations* aren't needed anymore
because cheap PeeCee hardware actually has usable graphics now. They didn't
back then. They didn't "go up against Intel" at all...they owned that
market, because of graphics capabilities, and when cheap PC hardware could do
it, it did.
SPARC and Alpha laptops were never big sellers. They were extremely handy
for people such as myself, who ran datacenters full of big Sun and/or Alpha
machines. (indeed, I've had a few of those laptops, and they were QUITE
handy in that environment)
And in say 5Y I suspect that they will have been
forced out of that
remaining niche, too.
Be careful; that "niche" is where a lot of heavy lifting gets done.
We'll
see what happens in 5Y, and I suspect (and hope) that you and I will be there
to discuss it, but those machines have been there for a very long time, and I
don't see them going anywhere.
That is what I meant by "failed". I am
taking a long-term view here,
encompassing their past and what looks very likely to be their
near-term future.
Ok, I understand your point. I don't agree with your predictions for the
future (similar predictions have usually turned out to be incorrect), and I
definitely don't agree with your definition of "failed". (in fact, and I
honestly mean no offense or attack by this, I think that definition is ludicrous)
-Dave
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Dave McGuire, AK4HZ
New Kensington, PA