11 Feb
2021
11 Feb
'21
1:43 p.m.
On 2021-02-11 4:31 p.m., Mattis Lind via cctalk wrote:
Den tors 11 feb. 2021 kl 20:36 skrev Fred Cisin via
cctalk <
cctalk at classiccmp.org>:
The drive was written by the very same controller, yes. The controller was
in a IBM RT PC that had a battery explosion. The ESDI controller may have
survived along with the disk. So the question is there drivers for this
board in anything else then a RT PC?
Chuck is saying that the ESDI command set on the controller level is
identical to ST506 controllers. Anyone with experience of the "IBM
Enhanced ESDI controller"?
https://vintagecomputer.ca/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/IBM-6150-RT-Slot-1-En…
I did a fair bit of googling but it didn't turn up much when it came to
Linux support. Of course, if it is the same as the ST506 AT controller
then it should work out of the box.
But then I thought, perhaps this is a more generic problem. People having
ESDI drives (well, SMD as well I guess) that there is no controller
available for or could be made running due to drivers or whatever. So what
if those drives could be read anyway.
Interfacewise it shouldn't be that complex. One benefit of ESDI is that the
clock extraction has already been done, so it is mostly a question on
finding marks calculating CRC.
/Mattis
I do seem recall using ESDI drives in a PC with 16 bit ISA slots but it
is a long time ago but I am not sure if the controller used was the RT
controller you have pictured, it seems to me the one used was a Western
Digital controller.? I do know for sure PS/2 had a microchannel ESDI
controller.? I suspect teh ESDI controller is at least similar to the AT
ST-506 controller as some RTs had the AT ST-506 controller in them, in a
former job I upgraded several 6150s that had the original NMOS processor
to the newer CMOS enhanced processor and also changed disks from ST-506
to to the huge 70MB ESDI drives.
Paul.
On Thu, 11 Feb 2021, Mattis Lind via cctalk
wrote:
I usually use David Gessweins MFM emulator for dumping unknown MFM disks.
It works perfectly!
What is the best way of dumping the contents of
an ESDI disk?
Same as for ST506/412
I have an
original IBM Enhanced ESDI ISA controller board. Could that be
used under Linux? Or NetBSD/FreeNSD? I googled but didn't find much.
Do you
have suitable drivers?
Yes, ESDI has been used with Linux.
In some cases, probably including the IBM ESDI controller, it looks
similar to the computer as an ST506/412 setup.
Start with another drive, and get your controller, drive, and OS working
with each other as ordinary drive, BEFORE trying to read an alien disk
using them. It is generally important to isolate variables, so that you
can determine whether problems are your setup or are problems with the
alien drive.
Is there any other way of dumping the disk
contents?
IS IT THE SAME controller that the drive was written with??
If so, no problem.
If not, PROBLEMS.
