On Mon, 22 Jan 2007, C Fernandez wrote:
Tothwolf wrote:
The ratchet version of the Ideal Telemaster
isn't too bad, and I carry
one in with my spare tools, but its not my first choice and I don't
think I've used it in about 3 years now. The non-ratchet version is
just junk IMO though.
Ok, found it..... I don't have either of the Ideal tools your talking
about. Mine is a Ideal Crimpmaster. It does ratchet, which I assume is
benefit since it doesn't release until the full crimp has been placed on
the connector.
It's 30-525 on Ideals web page, if your not familiar with it.
I was a bit surprised to find it's made in Taiwan. Its got to be the
most expensive Taiwanese tool I've even purchased at $55.
I am familiar with that one. Its uses the same frame design as the Paladin
1300
http://www.paladin-tools.com/view_category.php?id=76 and Greenlee
45504
http://www.mygreenlee.com/products/det.cfm?id=1432&upc=45504 The
dies from Ideal, Paladin, and Greenlee for these tools are also
interchangeable, though the manufacturers say they aren't ;)
Overall, its not a bad frame style, but it does require quite a bit of
breakover force compared to the higher end tooling. The Paladin 8000
series frame also works with these style of dies, and doesn't require any
breakover force. The extra breakover force really becomes an issue if you
are installing more than a handful or so of plugs. After a few dozen, it
can really start to hurt. Oddly enough, the first quality crimp tool I
bought was a Paladin 1300, which I still own. I've not used it in years
now though as the 8000 series frames are so much easier on my hands.
If you think the Ideal Crimpmaster was expensive though, these are what
I'm currently using:
AMP 1-231666-1 modular plug hand tool kit with dies
http://www.mouser.com/search/refine.aspx?Ntt=231666
AMP 853400-6 6 position offset latch die set
http://www.mouser.com/search/Refine.aspx?Ntt=853400
GMP 15305 modular plug presser kit
http://www.craftworktools.com/ht113.html
http://www.gmptools.com/nf/index_MPP.htm
http://www.gmptools.com/pdf/15305.pdf
The prices are fairly average, sometimes you can find them for $10-20 less
for the tools, though I've yet to find the AMP dies for less than $35-40
retail. I still need to buy a long body plug die for my AMP tools as I
have a couple boxes of AMP long body plugs that I found surplus last year
that I can't yet put to use.
-Toth