Al> I suspect that the driving force for tools (esp in TOPS-10)
Al> inside DEC came about because much of the software development
Al> inside of DEC for other CPU families until they converted to
Al> VAXen was done using cross-development tools on their internal
Al> timesharing systems (MACY11, etc.) ...
Don't know about the others, though I have my guesses about RSX -- but
in the case of RSTS at least, software development was "native"
not later than 1975 or so (RSTS/E V5B).
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The time frame I was really thinking about was '65 -> early 70's
And RT11 development probably
was hosted on RSTS at some point. (So was OS-8 support, on an 11/60,
since it could run PDP-8 code very fast thanks to the WCS option.)
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I'm sure Megan knows all the gory details of that.
This is also the first I had heard that Richie's PDP8 microcode was
actually used for product development.