18 Nov
2003
18 Nov
'03
4:03 p.m.
Ed;
I get the impression that the 2000Access system you have "under glass"
isn't
running. Shipping parts around might be expensive... buy me a plane ticket
and I'll come out there and get it running for you. SOO much nicer to show a
running system :)
Jay West
----- Original Message -----
From: "ed sharpe" <esharpe(a)uswest.net>
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 10:11 PM
Subject: Re: Grandfather system RTE6/VM?
When
gone
no one ever touched the inside of that unit except
me, but... yes when I
am in the giant glass display case I can check! yep... hp under glass! a
sight to behold!
ed!
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jay West" <jwest(a)classiccmp.org>
To: "ed sharpe" <esharpe(a)uswest.net>et>; "General Discussion: On-Topic
and
Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 8:25 PM
Subject: Re: Grandfather system RTE6/VM?
let
Yes, you have to pop them out to put them in a
prom reader. However,
that's
not what I was asking. I was merely asking if you
were positive you had
them, via visual inspection, so we knew there were at least two sets in
the
world rather than my one set :) Someone could
have pulled them out years
ago, that's why I was asking for a visual check to be really sure they
were
> present in your system.
>
> Jay West
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "ed sharpe" <esharpe(a)uswest.net>
> To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
> <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
> Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 9:20 PM
> Subject: Re: Grandfather system RTE6/VM?
>
>
> > no you have to pop them out to put them in a prom reader!
> >
> > I know they are there... the system would not have worked as an access
> > system had they not!
> >
> > we need a set of hardware manuals for the 2100... it seems though the
> > passing of the years the old ones I had at computer exchange Inc. the
> earth...
>
> I DID find though the 2100 hardware training manual # 02100-90159
while
> > looking at home here for the infamous DEC master Module List.... I
> > retired I squirreled bits of manuals all over where I live... Most
have
> been
added to the museum's reference library but it seems every time I
go
> > digging I find something.new I know the 2100 processor manuals are > > though as they were in the HP binders....
kind of hard to loose
those!
> >
> > ed sharpe archivist for smecc
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Jay West" <jwest(a)classiccmp.org>
> > To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
> > Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 7:09 PM
> > Subject: Fw: Grandfather system RTE6/VM?
> >
> >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Jay West" <jwest(a)classiccmp.org>
> > > To: "Ed Sharpe" <esharpe(a)uswest.net>
> > > Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 8:08 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Grandfather system RTE6/VM?
> > >
> > >
> > > > You don't have to pop out the chips, just pull out the rom card,
A1
or
they
> A2,
> > I
> > > think it's A2 going from memory. Look at the card and see what
numbers
> are
> > > on the white and gold chips that are socketed :)
> > >
> > > J
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Ed Sharpe" <esharpe(a)uswest.net>
> > > To: "General Discussion: On-Topic Posts Only"
<cctech(a)classiccmp.org>
> > > Cc: <jwest(a)classiccmp.org>
> > > Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 5:31 PM
> > > Subject: Re: Grandfather system RTE6/VM?
> > >
> > >
> > > > well I have the set that is in the 2100 in the 2000 access
system
> > here.
> > > > not a loose set. ( shall we call it embedded?)
> > > >
> > > > I would live in fear of poping them out though......
> > > >
> > > > ed!
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Jay West" <jwest(a)classiccmp.org>
> > > > To: "ed sharpe" <esharpe(a)uswest.net>et>; "General
Discussion:
On-Topic
> and
> > > > Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
> > > > Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 12:07 PM
> > > > Subject: Re: Grandfather system RTE6/VM?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > You're quite sure you have a set of the IOP firmware for the
2100
> > cpus
> > > > Ed?
> > > > > > If so, good to know. I really want to get mine backed up as
> > seem
> > > to
> > > > > be
> > > > > > the only ones around. However, I got a new prom burner and
it
is
> > > acting
> > > > > very
> > > > > > flaky so I'm a little afraid to put my chips in it.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Jay
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "ed sharpe" <esharpe(a)uswest.net>
> > > > > > To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic
Posts"
> > > > > > <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>rg>;
<classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
> > > > > > Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 11:16 PM
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Grandfather system RTE6/VM?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > we have a set too Al, but alas no way to read
them....
> > > > > > > It is up to you Jay!
> > > > > > > ed!
> > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > From: "Al Kossow" <aek(a)spies.com>
> > > > > > > To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
> > > > > > > Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2003 5:54 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: Re: Grandfather system RTE6/VM?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > I'll try to dump the microcode proms
this weekend
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Dumps of the firmware is now up at
> > > > www.bitsavers.org/HP/1000_firmware
> > > > > > > > including the IOP firmware the 21MX.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Jay, since you appear to have the only surviving
copy of
the
2100
> IOP
> > > > > firmware, it would be good to get the proms read.
> > > > >
> > > > >
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