I was one of the very early adopters. I got the January 1975 PE [they
actually arrive in late November to
the first week in Decemeber for subscribers.] and since I'd worked with
the 8008 and was in process for
my on 8008 I took all of maybe 4 days to decide what I'd order and wrote
the order letter. I had SN00200
in my hands and operational by the third week in January. I have the
copy of PE that I'd scribbled all my
notes on. The initial order was CPU, 4K ram, PIO, 88acr, front panel,
case and power supply. It took me
one sleepless weekend to assemble Case, panel, 4k ram and test. The next
weekend was the 88ACR
and the PIO. Then another weekend to debug the design errors (clock
and front panel circuits had
oneshots!) and make it run small programs from the front panel. I would
interface a SWTP CT1024
to it during Feburary and early March. The next order was for the
another 4K and 4K basic.
Things I'd learned by summer.
The power supply was crap. With the 5 boards I had it was barely
able to power them (8V line was actually
7.8V with excess ripple). the fix for that was NOT free from MITS
So I attacked it and rewound the transformer
and added more caps to take out the ripple plus rectifiers heavy
enough to stand the load.
The front panel oneshots were a PITA and would remain so even after
replacing all with the then believed better
TI parts.
the CPU clock was replaced with the 8224 and 18mhz crystal, I was
seeing stability for the first time.
The backplane rang like a struck bell, it was replaced with a third
party 16 slot that was far cleaner two sided
construction.
The 88ACR was one of the worst tape interfaces ever used. I would
design and build my own saturation cassette tape
system using a Redactron drive. 4K basic load time went from 2-5
tries at 10 minutes each to first time and about a minute
and most of that was toggling in the loader. The saturation
system ran at 15kb/s compared to 300!
At 16K of ram the power supply transformer for the 16V lines was an
issue.
In all I was spending a lot of time correcting original design
errors and hardware flubs little to no programming
was done.
While dealing with that I would get the first copy of MITS
Programming Package II, it was terrible, most of the
issues were documentation.
By fall of 1975 there were the new synchronous 4K memory boards (I
bought 4 "upgrades" and they
worked much better).
Soon after there was a new 88CPU-B that featured the 8224 and a
better layout with less timing and noise issues.
I bought a NS* Z80 board instead
Right about then Billy Gates put out his Hobbyists are thieves
letter. Despite that I bought and paid for
the BUGGY MITS BASIC V3.2 and then later bug reduced versions. Then I
got a copy of PT 5K basic, way better.
Also the PT assembly programming system.
By the summer of 1977 I was using a NS* floppy disk system and in
that late fall bought the NS* horizon chassis.
That by far was the greatest improvement over the ALTAIR. However
all the memory bought for the ALTAIR
had to be replaced as they only work with the 8080 in an ALTAIR
backplane, 4 SEALS 2102 based 8k static
board were the fix for that. I would add another 2 Processor tech
8K 2102 memories to make 48K ram.
That would lead to CP/M 1.3 and later 1.4 and decent software tools.
Spring of 1978 the Altair was retired and considered part of my first
great waste of money in computing
hardware. I sold some of the memory over time and recovered much
of my initial investment thanks to
ALTAIR mainia, I still have the CPU, ACR, BOX, PIO, and some memory.
I learned a great deal about
building reliable micros but not near as much as I'd have liked
about programming to that point.
Over the years I'd worked with other ALTAIR owners and users plus a
lot of 8080 based systems including
the Hazeltine H500 series terminals and Never saw a bad CPI or any
intel part (other than user destroyed).
But the early MITS CPU timing was so bad that the poor 8080 never
had a chance. The 8800A and later
8800B systems were far better. I have a 8800BT I rescued that is a
solid machine still despite being
one of the first deliveries. By time MITS had matured the design,
many people had soured to the product
and the market had proclaimed the Z80 was the cheaper and better way
to go.
Allison
On 08/24/2012 03:18 AM, jimpdavis wrote:
Since I bought one of original installment
"kits" I guess I can answer.
The Altair kit was shipped as monthly component / kit assembly.
Case, power supply, front panel, mother board.,CPU, board, 256 Byte
memory, One was was received each month.
The anticipation was horrible.
The last shipment was the CPU and I was unable to get the machine to
work in any way.
I figured I had screwed up and didn't try to recover my loss or demand
a new part from "what ever the hell their name was" MITS?
Micro instrumentation and telemetry systems? Hell, I'm not brain dead
yet!.
No internet, 2 minutes to recall, Fair weekend and 4 beers under my belt.
On summer vacation a few years later, I purchased another CPU and the
machine worked.
Intel later denied any sub-standard or defective parts were shipped to
MITS for the machine.In public
Jim.
microcode at
zoho.com wrote:
On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 08:16:24PM +0000,
barythrin at
gmail.com wrote:
To answer your question regarding an original
altair price, an 8800
generally sells around $1800 to $3000 depending on what's included
and if
its shown to work. Quite expensive.
Thanks for the info. I had no idea.
I've heard Grant Stockly (hope I'm not
missing an 'e' there) is also
going
to resume his Altair replicas. They're beautiful systems and exact
clones
but with that level of work it also demands a higher price tag. I think
they were running around 1200?
Still cheaper than the originals!