14 Jul
2019
14 Jul
'19
2:06 p.m.
I'm not understanding your sentimental attachment on these mux cards.
You can buy them all, bring them home, read to them before bed time, and
take great care of them until they get older....
Nobody I have sold to in the 25 years of selling this older HP stuff has
said they can use 1k MUX cards.. Believe me I have asked, I want all my
hardware to find a great home but the inn is full and things have to go.
The older HP boards have some gold in them, thats why I made that ad and
a bump on here. That stuff will sell, might be a week, a month, a year
and at a lesser price but someone will buy it.
I don't mind you trashing the ad but me? I provide a service for this
older HP stuff, there are not too many more of us out there that know
ins and outs of 1k, 3k, 9k hardware. I buy this older stuff from
anyone... people on this list included. Am I complaining, no because if
I want something, I know there is a price.
Lastly, you have no idea what the cost into these board are, you act as
if I found them in a dumpster. These thing carry a cost that they were
purchased for... excluding housing, storing them, shipping them when we
move for past 15+ years. Its very different than rescuing (=free) a box
from the crusher.. Even still, I wouldnt mind if you
sold your rescued
box or parts from it.
On 7/14/19 1:41 PM, Guy Dunphy wrote:
OK, I'll explain without so much sarcasm, what
you've done and why it's offensive.
This is a forum for people who appreciate and like restoring and preserving
classic computers. Almost by definition, classic computers (eg HP 1000)
and their parts are rare to find in good/working condition. Also they
don't have any commercial use, so prices are totally set by 'collectibles'
market factors. And often are simply passed among like-minded people, for free.
Most of us old guys have spent a lifetime trying and often failing, to save
splendid old gear from destruction by bean-counter mentality types. Who think
gear should either be in use making money, or destroyed as soon as possible
to clear the way for other money-making systems.
Now here you are, stripping boards from systems, chucking the boards in a
deep pile in a box (likely breaking small parts off most of them), putting
the box on ebay for 'gold scrap' but at a flat non-negotiable price that is
surely way above the actual worth of the gold.
Then acting like you're doing us a favor by letting us know of your offering.
Also you have just confirmed that you don't want them and basically want
to get rid of them. But you STILL haven't said anything about the $600 being
flexible.
From your wording in both posts, it's obvious there'd be no chance of you
taking any care to ship the boards in a way to avoid further damage if someone
did buy them from you. By your actions so far, and manner, it's clear you
regard them as absolute junk, fit only to be destroyed for gold recovery.
To us, it's_painful_ to see all those boards being treated so.
Summary:
* We see them as likely already broken. Deliberately broken. Vandalized. By you.
* And if by a miracle some are not already broken, they're very likely to
be broken after you handle them some more and ship them.
* In this context, your asking price is an insult.
* It's probably even an insult to gold scrappers.
* Which suggestes that you're a bit irrational. This isn't going to
raise interest.
No one has snapped up your generous ebay offer. Not even the gold recovery guys.
I have a HP1000 system, and I'm in Australia, where such hardware is incredibly
rare unobtainium. My system was rescued from a contract scrappers where it was about
to be smashed and landfilled, minus probably the aluminum in the old HP racks.
You're behaving in much the same way.
I do know the guys running that place felt sad about destroying cool old things.
Do you?
Guy