29 Oct
2012
29 Oct
'12
1:30 p.m.
On Mon, 29 Oct 2012, Dan Gahlinger wrote:
citation! There has been a lot of FOAF crap about that, BLAMING the copy
protection for any unexplained problems that ocurred. THIS group is
technical enough to deal with HOW did it damge the data?
That much, we agree on.
When you can make a 1541 read MFM, then I'll believe you.
Which is more important to YOU to accomplish?
With altering the controller, NOT THE DRIVE, I can read FM, MFM, GCR
easily with the PC drive. I don't have the ability to use a different
controller in a 1541. (Although some OTHER drives that could be
connected to a C64 were a little more versatile)
But separate controller and drive is more easily modified for OUR
purposes, such as a few jumpers on a 5150 FDC to use an 8" drive,
and nothing but cabling to connect an 8" drive to a 5170.
I happen to LIKE the way the C64 did disk I/O.
I spent some time with an IEEE-488 board and an MSR drive!
Different? Yes.
Good? Yes.
Better? Ford V Chevy.
--
Grumpy Ol' Fred cisin at xenosoft.com
there's nothing illegal about making copies of
software you own,at
least, not where I live...
We really don't give a shit about whether or not there is justification
for making the unauthorized copies. We ASSUME that there is a valid
ethical legitimate reason.
The question HERE is the technology, not anybody's personal excuses or
rationalizations.
Do you not understand that I said "unauthorized"?; I did not say
"illegal"
THAT is not relevant to US. We really DON'T CARE.
We were/are discussing the Option board for its flux-transition
capabilities for looking at disks of other formats. We weren't,
other than mentioning how it was MARKETED, discusiing, nor interested
in its very impressive piracy capabilities, nor in ANY discussion of
why it is "justifiable"!
OTOH, discussion of the TECHNICAL aspects (NOT which programs could copy
them!) of HOW protection schemes were implemented can be interesting.
We discussed HOW "scratched disk" schemes, such as Pro-Lock's "Laser
fingerprint" were implemented.
Or is merely
an EXCUSE? (Such as "maybe Pro-lock PLUS really was secretly
put into production??")
no, this has been documented in a few cases.like the
protection fails
they wipe your data, that has happened also. But, it would
be easier to just defenestrate them, or wait for them to
suicide like Vault Corpse did.
I wish it would happen to all of them Oh yeah. But
I can do things with an Apple][ drive that you can't do with
a 1541. Hell, I can do things on a PC that you can't do with a 1541!
A dumb device is much more versatile than one with its own controller
built hardwired in the box.
by adding a controller to the drive I guess :)if you can make your PC
drive without any hardware mods sing "daisy"I'll believe you.