A tree to grow

Why not just merge the 2 lists into one. People can post a message which most likely gets checked for spam or filtered for swearing (I would think a group with a billion years of computer knowledge could automate this part). Some human being with a sense of humor can decide if the topic is remotely on topic and let it pass, or fail it (send a note back to the sender with a reason why it is off topic) Once the thread gets going there should be a simple email address where people who have issues with the thread can forward it and the moderators can decide if it is Off Topic and change the header to reflect it (so people can just filter out completely) and hope it dies out on its own, or if enough people complain it gets killed then and there (subsequent replies to the OT post get a return message stating the thread is dead, reply directly to the poster, have a nice day). People who have to many off topic threads get put on probation (everything they send gets reviewed). Unless I am mistaken this is pretty much the way the list has been run, the majority of users decide what is offtopic by their bitching, and the guy paying the bandwidth has the final say. So lets grow up (as in a tree to be on topic for an off topic thread) and get back to whatever we have been doing before I got bored reading these emails. It just seems we are talking about the fine details that can never be 100% defined without making a 600 page book that gets edited every few years. All we realy need to iron out is what the offtopic thread designation looks like to set our filters (if needed).