On Friday 21 July 2006 05:51 pm, Don Y wrote:
C Fernandez wrote:
Patrick Finnegan wrote:
> I'm not trying to piss off anyone here, but really only "card-carrying
> union-member" electricians do apprenticeships. Purdue (for example)
> hires non-unionized electricians, who haven't necessarily been through
> any apprenticeship program (though some of them work just as
> effectively as Chicago card-carrying union electricians... ;).
Is this a question of "electrician" vs. "Electrician"? It was my
understanding that Electricians (licensed as such) go through a forma
l apprentice-journeyman-master process. Whereas "someone who fiddles with
wires" mayn't even know the first thing about electricity (and, in some
localities, wouldn't be allowed to work on an electrical system in a
residence or commercial building).
*Is* there such a formal process *required* to become a "licensed
Electrician"? Or, is it simply "take a test, pay the fee" (in the US).
I think that this is something that will vary a great deal from one locale to
another. When I lived in the NYC area you couldn't work at that unless you
had a license, and the only way to get a license was to apprentice to
somebody who did. But NYC has some pretty tight restrictions in other
respects anyhow, no romex ferinstance -- you use BX for smaller structures
or conduit for anything three stories or taller.
They also have the situation pretty screwed up in other respects as well. I
lived in Westchester County, right outside The City, and there was a guy I
knew there who was in the trade but not able to find work. While they were
crying for people in The City. I don't know if it was a union thing or what
but he was _not_ allowed to cross that line for some reason.
OTOH, around here there are no licensing requirements. I've done some work
of that sort, and so has my brother (a great deal more than I have, in
fact). The only place that requires a license is the City of Harrisburg,
but I don't need to go there.
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