20 Aug
2008
20 Aug
'08
7:53 a.m.
diffs on the various basics:
Scanning wrote:
The 8051 Tiny BASIC could squeeze into 3K of memory;
http://www.chac.org/bas-51.html
Whereas the 8052 BASIC fit into 8K of memory;
http://www.geocities.com/dsa_projects/electronics/8031-ah/8952-bas.html
this is full 8k BASIC with strings, floats, arrays and all.
so I don't see that they are related. I've
also never heard the 8052 version
referred to as a Tiny BASIC ( or Palo Alto BASIC ).
TB abd TBX references are for 8080/8085/z80 compatable integer BASICs.
The 8051
version can be a "tiny" basic meaning integers, simple array, maybe
simple strings.
Nibl is an example of a non 8080 flavor integer basic.
From looking around there are several BASICs around for the 8051/8031
family
and the 8052AH is a specific programmed chip with a nicer 8k basic.
Allison
Best regards, Steven
But definitely not any relation to the
interpreter found in the
8052AH-BASIC chip, though, right? Do you have any URLs handy?
-Dave
On Aug 11, 2008, at 6:09 PM, Scanning wrote:
> I've found numerous references to a MCS-51 Tiny BASIC for the 8051.
> Apparently it is 3 Kbytes so I would definitely put it in the Tom
> Pittman
> category for Tiny BASICs.
>
> Best regards, Steven
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dave McGuire" <mcguire at neurotica.com>
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> Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 12:41 PM
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>
>
>
>> Eric Smith wrote:
>>
>>> It's in 2.5KB of ROM, so it's definitely a tinier BASIC than in the
>>> competing Intel 8051AH-BASIC and Zilog Z8671, both of which had
>>> 4KB of
>>>
> ROM.
>
>> Was there in fact an 8051AH-BASIC? I've worked extensively with
>> 8052AH-BASIC, and have never heard of an 8051 version. The 8052
>> has 8KB
>> of ROM, compared to the 8051's 4KB. The BASIC interpreter
>> filled...and
>> I mean FILLED...that 8KB. It's extraordinarily dense code.
>>
>> The Z8671's BASIC, on the other hand, fits in the first 2KB of
>> ROM on
>> that chip.
>>
>> -Dave
>>