18 Sep
2012
18 Sep
'12
9:17 a.m.
On Tue, 18 Sep 2012, Robert Borsuk wrote:
It wasn't off-list. I replied to the message you sent the list here. The
very message in which you tried to paint me out to be a bad guy because I
called you out. Don't try playing the victim, it won't work. You wrote
what you wrote:
On Sep 18, 2012, at 7:55 AM, Tothwolf wrote:
[huge clip - please see previous post]
I certainly
could have flamed you into oblivion (There are a few here
who can vouch for my linguistic abilities and my talent for balancing
flame with substance) but because even now I /still/ want to give you
the benefit of the doubt, I've tried to keep it strictly matter of fact
while explaining my own point of view.
I hope someone does claim the system and I certainly hope you find a
way to work out your financial troubles. Being unemployed or
underemployed /sucks/ and it isn't something I'd wish on someone.
Before you sent that reply to me, I forwarded your initial message onto
a number of others who aren't active here, so maybe that helped
generate some leads for you.
WTF? This was an off list discussion between me and you, why did you
have to keep bringing it to the list? >> "It seems that Tothwolf was nice enough
to post to the list my
>> response to him but not his response to me."
To show I'm a bad person? I'm not.
I never said you were, however I don't like it when people try to play
these games. Playing the emotional card isn't going to make me want to buy
something from you just because you go from "parting out" to saying that
you are going to "scrap" it:
>> "I'm not going to part it out to
sell, I'm going to scrap it."
As I said before, if it wasn't such a big heavy thing, I'd rather be
interested in it, but freight would be killer.
If Jay or another administrator wants to remove me
because I might part
or scrap a machine. Okay. I've seen tons of people say - " Come pick
this up or it's in the trash". I've never wanted to kick them from the
list. I've always been thankful that they said it was available before
tossing.
There in lies the difference. Those messages aren't saying "I need $150
right now or I part the machine out/send it to the scrappers". Those
people aren't trying to play on people's emotional attachment to these
machines.
Maybe you don't (or didn't want to) see the dividing line of how your
message (and reply to me) differs from the typical offer to the list, but
there /is/ a major difference, which by now should be pretty obvious.
Please stop. Enough is enough. I didn't tug any
heart strings, just
stating a fact why I'm parting with certain machines. The funny thing
about all this is that the machine got interest from someone I'm holding
an SGI Pro Iris for. It happened right behind your first message to me
and it wasn't because of a "Save the machine or bad Rob's going to scrap
it" campaign.
I'm glad someone with the means to transport the machine is going to be
able to claim it.
As I said before, you are going about this wrong. If you are really hard
up for funds, rather than take $50 in scrap for a machine such as this,
the other option is pulling and selling desirable yet not too "rare" to be
unobtainable items from ones collection and then re-purchasing those items
again later. Not doing so will lead to others (such as myself) challenging
you on stuff such as your stated intention to me that you were going to
scrap the Sequent.
I've said what I felt I needed to say in the previous message, and given
that you clipped my entire reply above, I'm pretty sure I got my point
across, so as far as I'm concerned this thread is -done-.
EOT