28 May
2014
28 May
'14
8:04 a.m.
On May 27, 2014, at 12:05 AM, Josh Dersch <derschjo at gmail.com> wrote:
On 5/26/2014 11:03 PM, Eric Smith wrote:
That really doesn't track with my experiences. While in school (mid-late 70's)
there were a fair number of women in my EE classes (not to mention the other engineering
disciplines). Was it 50%? No. But they were hardly token numbers and some of them were
at the top of the class and while this may come across as somewhat sexist, they
weren't bad looking.
Also, my experiences in the late 70's early 80's w.r.t. women in the computer
industry was that there weren't token numbers either (at least at IBM). They were
working side-by-side with "us guys" and could definitely hold their own.
TTFN - Guy
On Mon, May 26, 2014 at 4:12 PM, Josh Dersch
<derschjo at gmail.com> wrote:
I've no doubt that women were in the minority in the computer biz in the 1980s (as
they remain today). I do take umbrage with Sellam's supposition that there were no
women at all with technical knowledge (or if there were, they were all apparently ugly) --
this is demonstrably untrue and it seems an odd point to bring up as a criticism of the
show (I mean, it has so many other flaws that he didn't even see, since he admits to
only watching 3 minutes of it...). Were there are lot of women in the industry? No. Does
the show have a woman in it? Yep. Is this particularly unrealistic? Nah.
(Really, I'd like to give the show a chance; I feel like I'm experiencing what
every doctor or lawyer goes through when watching a medical or legal drama on TV or in the
theater...)
At any rate, just me spouting off my mouth when I ought best have said nothing at all
:).
- Josh
>
> As with most generalizations, perhaps Sellam's wasn't 100% accurate, but it
> was damn close. Unfortunately. Yes, it's insane to think that someone could
be intelligent *and* female
*and* have fashion sense at the same time.
God forbid, especially in this industry.
I'm reasonably certain that Sellam was talking about how things *actually*
were back in the early 1980s, not how they should have been, or how they
might be now, or how we might want the early 1980s portrayed in 21st
century television programs.