20 Apr
2004
20 Apr
'04
12:13 a.m.
At 09:31 PM 4/19/04 -0700, you wrote:
Joe, are they still available??
I think they're still there but they won't be for long since they're
cleaning up the place. They're located in centrl Florida. NO I can't pack
them or store them. I'm storing so much stuff for other people now that
some of my own stuff is sitting outside and getting ruined. These are big
heavy suckers so bring a truck!
Joe
-----Original Message-----
From: cctech-bounces(a)classiccmp.org
[mailto:cctech-bounces@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Joe R.
Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2004 8:28 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: HP 64000 in Kansas City
At 11:01 AM 4/8/04 -0400, you wrote:
On 8 Apr 2004 at 7:47, Joe R. wrote:
You said it yourself:
"My understanding (from owning two since 1985) is that the
"HP 64000" is a product line. The development station
mainframes (desktop, portable) "
Maybe I'm wrong but as I recall, the 64000 is a LARGE
desktop unit with
about a 13 or 14 inch screen, keyboard etc all built into one
BIG unit. The
64100 is portable machine that's similar is size and style to a Kaypro
computer (but slightly larger). The two do similar jobs but
they're very
different in size and weight. Due to the very different styles of
construction and size, I'm sure that they use very different
interface cards.
I have a couple of both but I've never used the 64100 and
I haven't used
the 64000 in a long time. FWIW I just passed up a couple of
64000s in a
scrap place.
Joe
The 64000 and 64100 are very different machines.
Please elaborate.
Quoting from the "HP 64000 Logic Development System Selection and
Configuration Guide" (July 1985):
NUMBERING SYSTEM
Following is a breakdown of the 64000 System Numbering scheme. The
product line is 64XXX in which XXX is:
001-099: Mainframe Options
100-149: Mainframes
150-169: Emulation Memory and Controllers
190-299: Emulation Modules
300-350: Internal Analyzers
500-530: PROM Programmers
600-620: Timing Analysis
630 : State Probes
650-799: State Preprocessors
810-830: Compilers
840-859: Assemblers
930-939: Special Support Services
940-959: Field Installed Mainframe Options
960-965: Cables
980-999: Manual Sets
...and:
DEFINITIONS
DEVELOPMENT STATION: The HP64000 station; model numbers 64100A and
64110A.
My understanding (from owning two since 1985) is that the
"HP 64000" is
a
product line. The development station mainframes
(desktop,
portable) are
models 64100A and 64110A, respectively.
(This is analogous to the "HP 1000," which is a system. The
actual CPU
box
carries its own model number, e.g., 2108B for an
M-Series
with the upgraded
power supply and nine I/O slots, or 2109E for the
equivalent
E-Series. "HP
1000" wasn't an orderable product number,
at least according
to the "HP
1000 Computer Systems Ordering Guide,"
5953-8773D, February 1986.)
-- Dave