24 Oct
2015
24 Oct
'15
6:19 p.m.
Probably a silly question, but I assume that if
you're using a 28-pin socket you are inserting it
aligned at the end *opposite* pin 1, with pin
numbers offset by 2 (ie. 2x32 pin1 is 2764/256 pin
3, etc.)?
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Adrian Graham"
<witchy at binarydinosaurs.co.uk>
To: <jrr at flippers.com>; "General Discussion:
On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
<cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Sent: Saturday, October 24, 2015 8:56 PM
Subject: Re: PROMs and EPROMs, specifically
2332/2532/2732
On 24/10/2015 19:18, "John Robertson"
<jrr at flippers.com> wrote:
On 10/24/2015 5:43 AM, Adrian Graham wrote:
Hi John and others,
Thanks for that. I removed the diodes and wired
2332 (21) to 2372 (24)
leaving the A11 swap in place, the programmer
complained about pin 18
missing. The adapter in front of me is now wired
like this:
2332 (18) to 2372 (21)
2332 (20) 2x diodes to 2372 18 (band) and 20
(band)
2332 (20) 2k2 resistor to 2332 (24)
2332 (21) to 2372 (24)
Now I get "reverse insertion" hinting I've wired
something upside-down which
isn't the case. I can read 27256 and 2764's no
problem so I'm mounting
things the correct way.
Further digging into available eproms that the
programmer can read reveals
it CAN read 2532s, specifically the MCM2532
which the datasheet tells me has
the same pinout as the 2332. I still get
"reverse insertion error" so I'm
guessing my PROMs are toast.
Cheers,
--
Adrian/Witchy
Binary Dinosaurs creator/curator
Www.binarydinosaurs.co.uk - the UK's biggest
private home computer
collection?
Hi folks,
PET4032 repair continues with all ROMs, video
RAM and dodgy sockets removed
thanks to a hot air gun. Holes cleaned and I
have new turned pin sockets for
everything I've removed which I'll be fitting
this afternoon.
Since the ROMs came out OK I'm trying to dump
them using my Pinmaster48
programmer, being from the 90s it doesn't read
2332/2532 PROMs but it WILL
read a lot of variants of 2732 so I've made an
adapter as found thanks to
google and USENET:
2332 pin 18 to 2732 pin 21 (A11)
2332 pin 20 to 2732 pin 18 (Chip enable/Power
Down)
2332 pin 21 to 2732 pins 20 and 24 via diodes
with banding at the 2332 end
(2332 Vpp)
Wiring checks out and the diodes are aligned
correctly so pins 20 and 24
don't interfere with each other, however the
pinmaster continually gives me
"continuity error on pin 20"
Have I goofed somewhere?
Cheers,
You just tie pin 21 of the 2332 to Vcc (+5) -
Pin 24 of the 2732 - to read.
There are only two modifications needed
normally for reading a 2532/2332
in a 2732 socket.
2332
Pin 21 - Vcc (2732 Pin 24)
Pin 18 - A11 (2732 Pin 21)
If your reader coughs up a /OE error then use
diodes:
2332
Pin 20 - 2 Diodes, one to 2732 pin 20, the
other to 2732 pin 18. Banded
end to these pins, and you will also need a
pullup resistor on the
2532/2332 socket pin 20 so /CE (2332/2532) goes
high when not selected.
2K2 would do fine. Anything from your junk box
between 1K and 4K7 should
work though.
I don't think you will need the diodes though.
John :-#)#