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Subject: Re: Dr. Dobbs to cease?
Richard wrote:
Quoted Ian:
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I believe that there are two different issues here. Moderation of a
forum of which the the membership of is open to anyone is different than
the model where the writers and participants are chosen and there is an
editor / writer relationship in place.
It requires some business model or resource to support the latter, since
there is usually going to be a dedicated group if there is to be any
quality to it, in order for the enterprise to function.
Selling magazines used to do that. I do not believe that there is the
same resource to support these with online models. It remains to be
seen if the old publishing companies with magazines and an online
presence can survive, or if other ones will. Certainly the treatment of
the DDJ readership was not handled very well. I would think that there
would have been a cost effective model which would have allowed for all
online publishing and getting rid of the cost of the physical magazine
as a step rather than effectively erasing it the way they did.
Having a group like this with minimum moderation and one which is
heavily edited like the comp group mentioned is not going to produce the
same results.
In discussions I've had with librarians regarding printed vs. online journals,
I've been told that the costs of producing the physical artifact are a small fraction
of the overall cost. The cost of that staff predominates. However, advertising is an
important revenue flow. Once upon a time, I started receiving a magazine to which I had
not subscribed. When I asked why, the publisher replied that they were trying to boost
their circulation numbers so they could increase their advertising rates. They made more
money by giving away their product! (After a while, I realized why they had to give it
away and asked them to stop sending it to me, free or not.) -- Ian