Statement & apology (was Re: 10 Year Rule)

Jay, I've tried the "latter", and hopefully you've calmed down a few Kelvin... ;-) [[ I recognized that as my post... ]] Rumor has it that Zane H. Healy may have mentioned these words: Maybe, to you. Maybe not, to others. Maybe something completely off the frelling wall to someone else. Fact is, *it doesn't matter.* It's Jay's list now, has been for quite a long while, and _for that long while_ he's done a phenomenal job doing it. If Jay states that the new list charter is only blue computers made in February 1985 are ontopic, I'll paint my Tandy 200 blue & stay on the list. I'll prolly be talking to myself, but that's nothing new. ;-) OK Everybody, with rhythm this time: "It's Jay's List. He Sets the Rules! All Hail Jay!!!" [[ I have *not* filled my weekly sarcasm quota yet - and it's imperative I do as I now have my Sarcasm Journeyman's Card! ]] No, he's saying that a hard-fast rule of "Anything 10 years old is ontopic" doesn't work anymore. If this list denigrates to a Win95 support group, I'll bolt faster than greased pig; and I was one of the first 10 people here! If I was able to get BeOS running on a Mikrotik Router, even if it's offtopic, he'd prolly not complain; as it's not the "current state of technology." And, if you're saying that Win95 isn't "current state" remember: most of WinXP's installer has the same code base as Win3.1 - just prettied up. M$ Vista finally has a 32-bit installer [[ I guess they've finally gotten around to the last thing not bloated up!!! ]] It's not the platform (think "what you stand on" i.e. hardware) he's got a problem with - it's the current (Consumer) OSs. He's already stated he has *no problem* with MS-DOS/PC-DOS questions; but Win95 *isn't classic* - at least certainly not yet. My '04 Avalanche is worlds ahead of my old '92 extended cab 4x4 - but that doesn't make the _older_ truck classic just because I've upgraded. Now, my '76 flatbed may be a different story... Assuming I read Jay's comments correctly, if I post a question on how to get MS-DOS 3.3 running on my dual-core Athlon, it's perfectly ontopic due to the (current) unorthodox nature of the OS. Lest I rehash this one last time: By the hard-fast 10 year rule, my *Amiga* is still currently offtopic... AAMAF, by the 10-year rule, I think Win98 might supposedly be ontopic before my Amiga will. This is not my concept of "classic." I still know a *lot* of people running Win98 - what's Win98 other than a way for M$ to sell a more-fully-patched Win95 *all over again?* It's still "current state technology" and isn't "classic". Might I add so people don't think I'm M$ bashing - I would think that any linux kernel 2.x or recent versions of BSD are offtopic as well... Win95 is *way* too current to be classic, and won't be until it's considered unorthodox instead of the standard. I'm not really angry at *you* (So if I come across that way, I apologize!) - but I am angry about the fact that despite our protestations, the decisions lie solely in Jay's hands; and all our blathering just fans the flames, but doesn't make a whit of difference; and might just upset him to the point of quitting... where would we be then??? If *anyone* thinks I'm "full of condensed milk" *please* send any LARTs or brickbats offlist. Laterz, Roger "Merch" Merchberger -- Roger "Merch" Merchberger | "Profile, don't speculate." SysAdmin, Iceberg Computers | Daniel J. Bernstein zmerch at 30below.com |