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From: "Bob Bradlee" <Bob at BRADLEE.ORG>
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
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Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2005 9:01 PM
Subject: Re: luddites!
Manufacturing, one well written numerical control program generator
can replace a small army of machinists with a small number of material
movers and machine loaders. Lathe, Mill, and grinder operators went
first....
And how about the typesetters and linotype operators in the printing
industry ?
There are many many more examples if you think about how things were done
before ... Digital
>(and, I think they had a point. I think
economists are all smoking
>really good dope when they talk about mythical 'productivity gains')
>
The productivity gains are real in most manufactureing and process control
applications.
Bean counting and people tracking is only a small part
of the computing
picture.
productivity gains = more $$ for management from my view point.
more likely = more money for the vendors then what is left over is for the
stock
holders :)
Bob Bradlee
Automation might replace many manual manufacturing positions, but it does
create support jobs for the machinery used to automate. The more complex the
equipment the more people involved in designing, creating, supporting, and
servicing it. You trade low skill jobs for somewhat fewer higher skill jobs.
The US used to have most of its population at one time working the fields to
feed themselves and the rest of the country, today very few people are
needed to run automated farms but the rest found other things to do (we
don't have 97% unemployment now do we).
Productivity gains were huge when we went to computers and robotics to do
the repetitive tasks. Thing is once you automate the process where can you
get further productivity gains? The answer most companies use is to reduce
headcount, make everyone a salaried position (overtime exempt) and crank up
the expected work hours from their employees. You can also buy up the
competition and price your goods higher (still paying your workers the same
amount while merging the 2 companies and firing most of the duplicate
staff).
The major problems come when the manufacturing itself is sent to another
country, and with manufacturing goes the equipment and service companies
that support manufacturing. This leaves many people out of work and driving
down the wages of those who still have a job, but must compete with those
will work at a lower rate to survive.