----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Isbell, W5JAI" <jim.isbell at gmail.com>
To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts"
<cctalk at classiccmp.org>
Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 2:43 PM
Subject: Re: E-bay complaints: was Re: "Response" from seller with the
"Apple-1"
As I said, loosing one bid out of millions is not my
worry. I might
just as likely lose a bid because someone was looking 10 minutes
BEFORE I got it listed. But I cant worry over that one either!!!!
Its just a matter of sliding the window one way or the other. I wont
spend my time trying to satisfy one bidder in millions.
As to how you would recognise my auction, a I said earlier, I tell you
up front that I will do that. Its no surprise. If you see my ad you
will be able to bid on it and you will see that I plan on changing it
if no one bids.
Also, if you dont know enough to know you are interested to the extent
of the value of a minimum bid of $1, then I surely dont think you
will change your mind 20 minutes before the auction ends. So I wont
miss you. Go ahead and bit $1 and if you end up with it you rot a
bargain...or at least if you dont want the item you can send me the $1
and I wont ship it to save you the shipping cost.
In a real auction you would have to register, give a credit card
number or deposit check and get a number before you were allowed to
place the first bid!!! And if you were running in from the parking
lot they would not hold things while you put up the deposit or credit
card.
Please tell me how sniping helps the seller?????
On 7/4/05, Doc Shipley <doc at mdrconsult.com> wrote:
> Jim Isbell, W5JAI wrote:
>
> > Why?
>
> I typically have 15-20 watched items on my list. I *might* buy 2
> items a month, so you can see that I don't bid on everything that I
> track. I very often have 2 or 3 items that end within a few hours, and
> either can use or can afford only one of them. Duplicate items, short
> toy budget, whatever. In those cases, I *can't* enter a bid till I know
> I want that particular item, and that's often in the last 20 minutes of
> the auction.
>
> I asked about your ID primarily because in the above scenario, your
> items wouldn't be worth watching. Partly out of pure curiosity.
>
> Sniping *can* benefit the buyer, price-wise. However, your
> assumption that late bids are always about the money just doesn't hold
> water.
>
>
> Doc
>
> > On 7/4/05, Doc Shipley <doc at mdrconsult.com> wrote:
> >
> >>Jim Isbell, W5JAI wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>The starting price does not affect the cost of the auction to the
> >>>seller, its the selling price that determines the cost. So, its not
a
>>matter of saving money, its a matter of scaring
off bidders. I like
>>to keep the starting bid at $1 to encourage people to bid but when it
>>doesnt encourage them to bid I say f*** you and pull it.
>
> And what was your eBay ID again?
--
Jim Isbell
Some of you people crack me up with the ebay games you play.
I track quite a few auctions that I may or may not bid on, it is called
research. You have to technically know about the item you bid on so that if
the item is misrepresented or incomplete you know about it. It is also nice
to have some kind of background as to what that particular item goes for on
average. Sometimes I bid early and sometimes I wait for the last 5 minutes
depending on the popularity of the item and on what else I am bidding on.
There is no point putting an early minimum bid of lets say $1 on an item you
know will go for $200. To be honest early bidding is stupid just for the
fact that shills like jacking the price up to see what your maximum bid is
(and if don't get into a bidding war they just relist the same item again).
The people selling bulk items have a good strategy, they have reasonable buy
it now pricing and people snap those up as needed. Anyway for the sellers
who think they have something rare, there are very few items that will not
pop up again every 5-6 months (hell could be the same item for all I know).
I spend what an item is worth to ME, I could care less what the seller
thinks it is worth. If an item goes for the minimum bid (I have won quite a
few that way) I expect the seller to ship it.