What pisses me off is when stuff like 120v mains hotdog cookers get
mentioned in one topic and it turns into its own.  Everyone on this list
should know better than to turn that into a thread.
  -----Original Message-----
 From: cctalk-bounces at 
classiccmp.org
 [mailto:cctalk-bounces at 
classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of Tony Duell
 Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 6:17 PM
 To: cctalk at 
classiccmp.org
 Subject: Re: A tree to grow
 Tony wrote....
  To be honest, I didn't much care for the 10
year rule, 
 In that case, I sure would have appreciated more input from  
 you when
  the definition was being discussed. Was there any
reason you didn't
 provide some help to come up with something better than the 10 year
 rule if you didn't care that much for it? Help from you would have
 been awesome! But I am glad to hear that yet another person  
 finds the 10 year
rule problematic.
 Oh for %deity's sake.... There are 2 reasons why I didn't
 suggest an alternative
 1) As I've said at least twice, the original thread didn't 'register'
 with me. Rememebr I'm one of the people who didn't even
 realise the 10 year rule was no more.
 2) Even if I don't much care for something, it doesn't mean I
 can necessarily come up with something better (for example, I
 don't much care for Windwos, I don't think I could write a
 replacement).
 > I am seriously considering unsubscribing over this. Not  
 because of
  > the noise on the list. Not because I have
any particular  
 love of the
 
10-year-rule (or any other date-related rule). But because I now
 have no idea what this list is actually supposed to be talking
 about. And there seems little point in remaining on such a list. 
 So your reason for unsubbing would be because you don't understand
 what this list is talking about? Sure, there's some  
  argument about the
  finer details 
 I've had far too many problems in my life caused by ambiguous
 definitions, criteria, and so on. Maybe it comes from
 spending too much time working with devices that do have
 precisely-defined rules, but I will admit to liking such
 rules. That's not to say I don't also enjoy finding obscure
 borderline cases :-)
 More seriously, you may think you know what a classic
 computer is. I may think I know what one is. And most of the
 time we'll agree. But I am woried about an almighty flamefest
 when you say something is off-topic (as is your right as list
 owner), the poster insists the machine _is_ a classic, and
 various members take sides. With no clear definition of
 classic, that 'discussion' could run and run.
  and probably the definition needs tweaking. But I
seriously  
 doubt that
  people (and you) honestly don't know what
this list is  
 about. I'm sure
  I and 
 Oh, I know plenty of machines that _I_ think are classies. I
 think most list members would agree with me in every case.
 But that's a far cry from having a definition of classic computer.
 -tony