teaching programming to kids - Re: Looking for 8080/Z80 BASIC

I would agree... On the other hand every version of Forth worthy of the name ahs the words ! and @, and often related words like C! and C@ (the HP71 versionn has N! and N@ to access individualt nybbles too(). So it's easy enough to write a machien code monitor in Forth. Even most ROM BASICs count, in tha they have PEEK and POKE (and related commends to accesss I/O ports on appropriate machines). The ROM BASIC In my IBM machines saved me a lot of time when I had a disk controller fault. The machine couldn't boot of course, but I could send values ot the controller I/O ports from the ROM BASIC and trace the signals on the PCB wit ha logic probe. I am not sure how you do it with no porgramming lanaugage available (and no front panel, for the pedants). -tony