their end of
the social contract.
 Dick
 ----- Original Message -----
 From: "Vance Dereksen" <vance(a)ikickass.org>
 To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
 Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2001 10:19 AM
 Subject: Re: OT: Stupid discussions about Dick's silly ideas
 People in this country don't know what corruption can be.  The politicians
 in this country are (for the most part) very virtuous.  Take Russia or
 India.  There's corruption.  This is nothing.  The "corruption" here is
 basically the small amount that gets past the radar of the all-consuming
 all-terrifying tyrannical American mob.  Other countries don't have this
 mechanism.  It's ok to be idealistic, but we must also be realistic in
 that the American public does a *pretty* good job of keeping our
 politicians in line.
 Peace...  Sridhar
 On Sat, 7 Jul 2001, Sellam Ismail wrote:
 > On Sat, 7 Jul 2001, Shawn T. Rutledge wrote:
  
 > > Some day there will be new
frontiers on other planets but until then,
 > > I don't see such an easy escape from the existing governments.  Any
 > > future revolutions we have in the US will have all the same problems
 > > of revolutions in older established countries, say, France or Russia;
 > > that of trying to cast off the old ways and being unable to really
 > > completely start over, because the past is always there to haunt you.
  
 > The problem is even with the intended
ideals that the founders put in
 > place, our political system still ended up becoming corrupt, with
 > seemingly no way of correcting it short of Armageddon (although it did
 > take 200 years for it to happen).
  
 > Does this mean every couple of
centuries we'll have to re-invent the
 > United States on some other distant expanse of immaculate territory?
  
 > Sellam Ismail
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