Waidaminnute, waiddaminute ... Just because you couldn't buy an AMIGA clone
for cheap doesn't mean you can peg its cost to a BigBlue pricetag. I bought
the board separately from the box, used a mouse I already had, and bought the
VGA card (pretty pricey) from my ex business partner's retail store.
The year I got my first PC/AT (I used 'em at work all the time, but didn't get
one at home for a while.) I bought a 25 MHz clone (NEAT architecture) with 8
MB RAM and a pair of 700 MB ESDI drives for $1080. That was with a 1kx768x16
VGA display board. I hacked it to work with a fixed-frequency (sync-on-green)
monitor I had sitting around. It was WONDERFUL. That was in early '89.
more below ...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Fred Cisin (XenoSoft)" <cisin(a)xenosoft.com>
To: <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2002 6:34 PM
Subject: Re: C-64 vs the world (vintage flamebait) (was Re: Micro$oft
Biz'droid Lusers)
On Tue, 23 Apr 2002, Richard Erlacher wrote:
> > Now compare the cost of the 64 to a
PC/AT at the time...
>
> More like the original PC - both came out about the same time - 1982.
> The C-64 was $595 (no disk), the original PC was $2880, 64KB of RAM
> and, also, no disk.
5150 with 16K RAM, no video (+$300 for CGA board) $1360?
disk controller was another $300, ~$900 for IBM's CGA monitor (but CGA
card would connect to composite video, AND had connector for SupRModII RF
modulator)
I remember that, in '84, my partner and I were selling compete XT's using
gray-market boxes with motherboards and putting our own drives, using TEAC
FDD's and Fujitsu hard disks in 'em with a Western Digital controller and
selling the entire thing with 256KB of RAM for about $1500. Now, I had
connections with a local manufacturer that was using about 2880 of the 64K
drams per hour, so it wasn't difficult to get a "price" on them, and a
friend
was at a local HDD specialty house, so when I couldn't get 'em cheaper
directly or from the west coast, I'd get 'em from him.
Nevertheless, we were only about $25 under most everybody else.
The PC-AT
came out several years later with a
standard configuration price (including hard disk) of $5K.
August of '81, IIRC. I got my technical reference in March of '82.
PC (5150) August 11, 1981
Compatibility? Could the PC easily read
Commodore 64 diskettes?
No. But LATER Commodore drives COULD do MFM, and therefore write stuff
that the PC could read (with additional software)