Xerox 820 system disks in Teledisk format?

---------------Original Message: Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 12:18:22 -0400 From: Patrick Finnegan <pat at computer-refuge.org> Subject: Re: Xerox 820 system disks in Teledisk format? On Sunday 10 May 2009, js at cimmeri.com wrote: I'm not sure how you whine over an email, but I thought that the point of mailing lists was to talk to other people, and in part to get help on things that you don't understand or don't know. I'm pretty sure that not eveyone here has the same knowledge or skill set, so what's minor to you is probably not to other people that have no knowledge of it. In any case, I've learned that IT people can't communicate well, and can be a pain in the ass to deal with because we generally have bad interpersonal skills. You can do a lot of hard work and try to please people here, but you still get yelled at for doing a "disservice" or "not a good enough job". Even if you work out your differences, it wears down on you over time. It's dumb arguments like this one that drive people like me away from this community. Pat -- Purdue University Research Computing --- http://www.rcac.purdue.edu/ The Computer Refuge --- http://computer-refuge.org ************************ Reply: What dumb argument? Yes, one of the points of a list like this is to ask for and give help, but even in this day and age concepts like "please" and "thank you" and showing appreciation instead of complaining and taking others and their contributions for granted still have some value. The OP asked for information and help about 22disk and IMD and despite the denigrating tone of his questions the authors of both of these programs took the time to answer his questions at length and in detail, enabling him to resolve his issues, and apparently someone on this list also took the time to send him the TD disks that he asked for. What are his final words on the issue? Appreciation for those people and this list which gave him access to them? No, now that he got what he needed from the list he tells us, "I'm getting real, real tired of the tone on this list and will probably take a break from any posting here. Now I'm beginning to understand why folks like Sellam left." Not surprising; as I recall some people were also annoyed by Sellam's rude and insulting attitude and language and not entirely sorry to see *him* leave. If Chuck and Dave and the person who sent the disks had the same attitude and had left the list (and, considering the crap that Dave has had to put up with in the past I wouldn't blame him at all) then OP would still be staring at his 820 paperweight. When someone suggests to OP that his negative tone and attitude might annoy some people who might then be less eager to help him next time, then that might be seen as an opportunity to improve those "bad interpersonal skills" that you mention, instead of evoking a defensive response... m