At 09:45 PM 1/12/98 -0800, you wrote:
>> No handles??? 'Tain't a Portable then!
Whups, forgot the 8^)
>Hmmm, maybe having handles isn't the best criteria for determining if a
>machine is portable.
Hmmm...
Panasonic Sr. Partner: Handle
Apple Mac Portable: Handle
HP LS/12: Handle
Altima 2: Handle
Good Composer: Handel
Amstrad PPC640: Handle
Bondwell B310+: Handle
Osborne 01: Handle
(Sorry, couldn't resist.)
>It seems that portable machines are those which the manufacturer built
>to be easily picked up (in some cases without grunting too loudly) and moved
>to another location to be used. This holds for suitable values of "easily".
Yep.
>Yes, Roger. I know you were kidding.
Aw, shucks. I thought I had ya fooled. 8^)
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At 07:55 PM 1/12/98 -0600, you wrote:
>>1) I took pictures of a bunch of systems:
>> Amstrad PPC640
>I didn't know these were available in the US. I just hauled one back
>(PPC512) from France last week and I thought that I had a very original
>portable (even though it got pretty heavy waiting for customs;)
>Were there any other of the Amstrad marketted in the US like the CPC series?
Well, Amstrad wasn't really big over here, but they did sell a few machines.
Other Amstrad's I've got (second hand) are the PDA600 "PenPad" and the PC-20
(sort of a CoCo-ish/Atari ST-ish one-piece PC).
btw, there was another PPC640 that sold on eBay this weekend, but it was
complete, with power supplies, software, and a really neat case. I didn't
get it, though. 8^(
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At 08:32 PM 1/13/98 -0600, you wrote:
>Y'know, I once saw an honest-to-god IBM stand-alone plasma monitor in a
>surplus shop. 17" I think (or thereabouts). Pretty neat, but priced a
>little high.
That's one thing I hate about thrift shops: A monitor is a monitor to them.
I've seen monos, cgas, egas, and vgas sitting right next to each other, all
with the same price on them. (Needless to say I grabbed the VGAs!)
-John Higginbotham-
-limbo.netpath.net-
At 10:56 AM 1/12/98 -0500, Allison(tm) wrote:
>I gotta get that sex change. It happens it's MS Allison and I don't have
Oh no! It's the new MicroSoft Allison! No more intelligent posts about
non-MS computers/software Arrrgghh! 8^)
(Sorry, couldn't resist!)
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I've been doing some research and I've learned that it is possible to do a
network boot of at least some VAXen using a properly configured Linux
server with a NFS mountable version of NetBSD. I'm currently in the
process of FTPing the necessary software and hope to get my VAXstation 2000
up tonite using this method.
I would also like to be able to boot my VAXstation II/RC this way, but I
need a Ethernet Transciever for it. According to my Hardware manual for
this system (I love actually having documentation on something), I need a
H4000 Transceiver. What I'm wondering is if I can just go dig up a generic
10Base-2 transceiver and have it work?
Eventually I want to get at least the II/RC up and running VMS, but this
sounds like a good temporary measure to run the hardware though some paces,
so to speak while I'm getting a Hard Drive and VMS on media that I can use.
Besides I want to get a copy of NetBSD transfered onto TK50's.
Zane
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<I got a line on an Intel ISIS-II development system with lots of
<accessories. What do I do with it if I get it?
Richard,
I'd suggest computing and developing. It will run two OSs ISIS and CP/M
and it's pretty neat as they are fairly old to say the least.
If it has the programmers commonly used and the Paper tape it's a reall
winner!
Allison
<The 4051 BASIC is AWFUL. Example: the syntax of the IF statement is IF
<condition THEN line number. Similarly the 4052 and 4054. The really
20 IF A=5 THEN 100
That is standard Dartmouth BASIC! at least it has been since 1969 when I
started programming with it.
Allison
I got a line on an Intel ISIS-II development system with lots of
accessories. What do I do with it if I get it?
Rich Cini/WUGNET
Charter ClubWin! Member
MCP Windows 95/Windows Networking
> Personal Computer: IBM called the 5100 a personal computer and also a
>portable computer. I think they called it a personal computer since it did
Announced 9/9/75 according to Haddock.
He also mentions a "Geniac" ca. 1956: "Sold primarily as a toy, this type of
machine was arguably the first electronic digital personal computer."
And in '71, "The Busicom desktop electronic calculator, based on the new
Intel 4004, was introduced. This was the first computing device to employ a
microprocessor."
1973 saw the Scelbi 8H, and 1974 saw the Mark 8. Also in '74, Xerox came up
with the Alto which could make a bid for the first personal computer.
1975 was the year of the Altair 8800 (ann. january) and the Processor
Technology SOL (April). Later MOS Tech came out with the KIM-1.
> Portable Computer: IBM also called the 5100 a "portable computer". I
>guess they considered it a portable computer because everything was in one
>unit. It was certainly NOT portable in the sense that one person could
>pick it up and move it around. It's huge and it's heavy and there aren't
>even any handles on it. Not to mention the fact that it has an unprotected
No handles??? 'Tain't a Portable then!
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> Actually, I've always wanted to get my hands on one of those heathkit
> gibbyframmers (with the Moto6800 CPU, six digit 7-segment LED display and
> hex keyboard, etc. etc.) as I used one in college and had a barrel o'
> monkeys interfacing things to it 'cause it was so easy.
I have the short-lived low-end version of that unit in the cardboard box. I
saw it in the Heathkit catalog, scraped some money together and bought it.
I didn't see it in the next catalog. Mine is serial #8.
This version of the unit only has half the memory of the one with the
protoboard on the front: 256 bytes instead of 512 bytes. It also doesn't
have the protoboard: just a keypad and six-digit hex display. There is
a spot for an expansion connector on the inside, but I never did anything
with it (I tried, though; I ordered a pair of 1Kx4 SRAMs from Radio Shack.
6 months later, _one_ of my two SRAMs arrived. The guy at Radio Shack didn't
understand why I didn't want to buy just the one. The other SRAM never did
arrive).
I've not fired it up recently, but it worked last time I did.
Roger Ivie
ivie(a)cc.usu.edu
