Who was the joker that posted the message a week or so ago stating
that usmo.com had good prices?
I checked thir website and found a couple of printers for the HP 41
calculator, so I E-mailed and asked their price. They didn't knopw what
they were, I had to send them the URL. Then they wrote back wanting $650
for them!!!!! That's more than double HP's original price and at least 15
times the maximum price now. usmo is a rip off and a waste of time!
Joe
>Return-Path: <kseeker(a)usmo.com>
>From: "c" <kseeker(a)usmo.com>
>To: "Joe" <rigdonj(a)intellistar.net>
>Subject: Re: more prices
>Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 09:36:17 -0000
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>Those printers we currenlty are asking $650
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Joe <rigdonj(a)intellistar.net>
>To: c <kseeker(a)usmo.com>
>Date: Monday, January 19, 1998 1:31 PM
>Subject: Re: more prices
>
>
>>They're at "http://www.usmo.com/~kseeker/webdoc3.htm". They're listed as
>>Thermal Printers.
>>
>> Joe
>>
>>
>>At 09:36 PM 1/18/98 -0000, you wrote:
>>>Where did you see these, at what link, I do not recall these part numbers.
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Joe <rigdonj(a)intellistar.net>
>>>To: kseeker(a)usmo.com <kseeker(a)usmo.com>
>>>Date: Friday, January 16, 1998 1:46 AM
>>>Subject: more prices
>>>
>>>
>>>>I'm interested in the HP 82161 and 82162 printers advertised on your
>>>>website. Tell me what you want for them and their condition.
>>>>
>>>> Joe
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
In a message dated 98-01-19 23:14:51 EST, you write:
<< >> Oh, they also had a few IBM PS/2 style monitors with a single RCA jack
>>
> What denotes a PS/2 "style" monitor ? I haven't heard this term
>before and have several P/S2 s. The RCA jack would suggest a
>composite monitor.
It's the kind of case; the PS/2 style is rather different from the old 5150
style.
what was the model number? first generation ps/2 machines were 85xx. second
generation ps2 models were 95xx, known as the premium line.
david
Hi Jim, I'll give you $30 shipped. I'm in PA 17347.
Sincerely,
Tom
>I have an Apple ][+ that needs a good home. I've never seen anything
>quite like this; every slot filled! I don't know it it works though;
>no boot floppies. Here's what's inside:
>
>Applied Engineering 16k Pocket Rocket (?)
>Asynchronous Serial Interface
>MountainComputer A/D+D/A
>PTM-1 Programmable timer module (with kludge of unknown function)
>Parallel Interface board
>ThunderClock Plus
>Disk ][ Interface Card (FDC)
>APL Board (with centronics cable attached)
>
>Included are a pair of Disk ][ drives, an Apple Joystick, and some
>misc cables dangling from the back. E-Mail me at:
>
> Jeff.kaneko(a)ifrsys.com
>
> _or_
>
> banzai(a)worldnet.att.net
>
>if interested. Will sell for a very reasonable price, plus shipping
>from Wichita, Kansas.
I wasn't try to ruffle any feathers here, or undercut anyone's price. Your
post simply jogged my memory as to the availability of these kits. FWIW the
URL is:
http://www.users.interport.net/~zebra/ts/
I was just there; it's still a live link. Kind of interesting browsing what
they have to offer. BTW, I'm not affiliated with the sellers in any way,
nor have I ever purchased from them.
Cliff Gregory
cgregory(a)lrbcg.com
-----Original Message-----
From: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
To: Cgregory <Cgregory>
Date: Monday, January 19, 1998 10:17 PM
Subject: Re: Sinclair Kit for Sale
>
>Yeah ok. I just report what I'm told. I'm not a salesman. I'm not an
>apologist. If you want to negotiate price with the guy contact him
>directly at squest(a)cris.com. I'm not making any money off them. I don't
>care if sells any. I don't care if anyone buys any.
>
>Anthony Clifton - Wirehead
>
>> Seems to me these kits are still available from some distributor on the
net
>> for around $30. I'll see if I can dig up the exact URL.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu <classiccmp(a)u.washington.edu>
>> To: Cgregory <Cgregory>
>> Date: Sunday, January 18, 1998 7:46 PM
>> Subject: Sinclair Kit for Sale
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> >A friend of mine has an original unbuilt Sinclair kit for sale at what
>> >looks like an interesting price. If you're interested, contact him
>> >directly at squest(a)cris.com and tell him Anthony Clifton - Wirehead sent
>> you.
>> >
>> >Anthony Clifton - Wirehead
>> >
>> >
>>
>
Hello Fellow Classic Computer Collecting Nerds.
If you've checked out the Vintage Computer Festival web page then you
know that there will be an exhibition of over 100 computer systems as
part of the event.
Just having the computers without any accompanying literature would
probably leave a lot of attendees wondering what it was they were looking
at. Therefore, I would like to have a short, one-page write-up for each
machine on display giving summary information about the machine. I
figured there is probably no better resource for general and historical
information on old computers than this discussion group.
As you know, 100 computers is a lot. So I am asking for a favor from
anyone interested. I need write-ups done for the machines which will be
on display! Aside from my undying gratitude, anyone who contributes
write-ups will receive a free Vintage Computer Festival 1.0 t-shirt and a
free pass to the show either this year or for whatever year you will be
able to make it out (this WILL be an annual event).
A list of the systems on display will follow. If you would like to do some
write-ups for a particular system or series of systems, please e-mail me
and I will let you know if a write-up is required for that system.
The write-up should ideally include:
The company which created the computer
The founding year of the company
The year the company went out of business
The founder(s) of the company
What the company's main market was (ie. who was their customer?)
The year the computer was developed/released
How many were manufactured (if known)
What computer (if any) preceded this computer
What computer (if any) followed this computer
What operating system(s) could it run?
What language(s) if any were built-in or available for it?
What kinds of peripherals were available for this computer
What were the attributes of this computer
What processor did it use? How many bits was it?
How much memory did it come with standard? How much total memory
could it be expanded to?
What kind of bus architecture did it use (if any) or how could it be
expanded (if at all)? Did it have a carthridge slot?
What other computers was it compatible with (if any)?
What peripherals were specifically available for it (if any)?
Disk drives or other storage devices?
Printers?
Displays?
Other stuff like speech synthesizers, graphics tablets, etc.?
What (if any) graphics capabilities did it possess?
What was the resolution (of all graphics modes)?
How many colors were available?
Any special features of the graphics? Any special graphics hardware?
What (if any) sound capabilities did it possess?
How many voices did it support?
Any special features of the sound? Any special sound hardware?
What other significant attributes did it feature?
Again, it would be ideal to have all this information, but it is not
mandatory. I realize that some stuff is just a mystery. Hopefully
having Vintage Computer Festival's will clear up these mysteries by
getting the information flowing about old computers.
If you would like to contribute a write-up, please e-mail me with what
you want to contribute and I will let you know if I need one for that
system or not. Thanks!
(list to follow below)
Sam Alternate e-mail: dastar(a)siconic.com
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Computer Historian, Programmer, Musician, Philosopher, Athlete, Writer, Jackass
Attend the First Annual Vintage Computer Festival
See http://www.siconic.com/vcf for details!
MANUFACTURER PRODUCT MODEL
---------------------------- --------------------------- ------------
Altos
Apple Computer Apple /// A3S2
Apple Computer Apple //c A2S4100
Apple Computer Apple IIe A2S2064
Apple Computer Apple IIe A2S2128
Apple Computer Apple ][ A2S0016
Apple Computer Apple ][+ A2S1048
Apple Computer Lisa 2
Apple Computer Macintosh Plus M0001A
Atari Atari 1040ST 1040STF
Atari Atari 1200XL Home Computer 1200XL
Atari Atari 130XE 130XE
Atari Atari 400 Home Computer 400
Atari Atari 520ST 520ST
Atari Atari 600XL Home Computer 600XL
Atari Atari 800 800
Atari Atari 800XL 800XL
Atari Falcon 030
Callan Data Systems Unistar 300
Commodore Amiga A1000
Commodore Amiga A500
Commodore CBM 2001 Series PET 2001-32
Commodore Commodore 64 64
Commodore Commodore 64 Personal Compu 64C
Commodore Commodore 128 128
Commodore Commodore Plus/4 Plus/4
Commodore PET 4016
Commodore PET 4032
Commodore PET 8032
Commodore VIC 20 Computer VIC 20
Compaq Portable
CompuPro 8/16
Computer Power & Light Compal 80 Minicomputer
Corona Data Systems M18P-2
Corvus Concept
Cromemco Z2 Computer System
Data General Data General One 2514A
Epson Geneva PX-8
Epson Portable Computer HX-20
Exidy Inc. Sorcerer Computer
Fortune Systems Corporation 32:16
Forward Technologies Sun 1 Clone
GCE Vectrex
Heath H8
Heath Hero I
Hewlett-Packard Computer HP3000/37
Hewlett-Packard Computer HP85A
Hewlett-Packard Computer HP86B
Hewlett-Packard Portable HP110
Hewlett-Packard Portable Plus
Hewlett-Packard Integral PC HP9000/207
Hewlett-Packard Workstation HP9000/520
Hewlett-Packard Computer HP9915
IBM 3270 Personal Computer 5271
IBM Personal Computer 5150
IMSAI Manufacturing Corporat IMSAI 8080 Microcomputer Sy
Interact Micro Video
Intertec Data Systems SuperBrain II
Kaypro Corporation Kaypro New 2
Macintosh 128
Mattel Electronics Aquarius 5931
Mindset Mindset
Morrow Designs MDT 60
Morrow Designs Pivot Portable
Non-Linear Systems, Inc. Kaypro II
North Star Computers Horizon
OSI C4P MF
Olivetti M10
Osborne Computer Corporation Executive
Osborne Computer Corporation Osborne 1
Osborne Computer Corporation Osborne 3
Osborne Computer Corporation Vixen
PMC Inc. PMC 81
Processor Technology Corp. SOL 20
Quest Electronics Super Elf
Radio Shack TRS-80 Model I
Radio Shack TRS-80 Model III
Radio Shack TRS-80 Model 100
Radio Shack TRS-80 64K Color Computer 2 26-3127B
Radio Shack TRS-80 Color Computer 2 26-3027
Radio Shack TRS-80 Micro Color Computer MC-10
Radio Shack TRS-80 Micro Computer Syste 26-1006-1
Radio Shack TRS-80 PC-1
SWP Microcomputer Products ATR8000
SWTP 6800
SWTP 6809
Sanyo MBC-550 MBC-550
Sinclair ZX80 ZX80
Sinclair ZX81 Personal Computer ZX81
Sun Microsystems Workstation 2/50
Synertek VIM-1
Tandy TRS-80 Model 2000 26-5103
Tandy Tandy 1000EX 25-1050B
Tandy Tandy 100HX Personal Comput 25-1053A
Televideo TS1603
Texas Instruments 99/4A Computer PHC004A
Texas Instruments Silent 700 745 Portable
Timex Computer Corporation Timex-Sinclair 1000 M 330
Timex Computer Corporation Timex-Sinclair 1500
Toshiba T1000 PA7027U
Vector Graphics Inc. Vector 1
Victor Technologies, Inc. Victor 9000 412
Video Technology Ltd. Laser 50
Visual Computer Inc. Commuter COMMUTER US
Let me ask some of you wiser heads here on the list a question if I may:
Is there a way to archive boot-disk images on my DOS file server? I'm trying
to archive some of the DOS versions that are on my older machines. I'm
thinking of that .exe format that IBM uses to produce bootable reference disks
for the PS/2's.....is there anything comparable to that I can use to make
a storable boot-disk image? I do make disk copies of the operating systems
I want to save, but would also like to back them up on the server. Can
anyone recommend anything that would be simple enough for a newbie like
me to use to do this?
Kirk Scott
scottk5(a)ibm.net
Net-Tamer V 1.09.2 - Test Drive
OK, I got a MicroVAX II with a working RD-54 yesterday! I'm finally up and
running with VMS. It's one of the Big ones on casters, I think it's what's
called a BA-123 enclosure. I'm happy :^) There is something incredibly
cool about a system that has the ability to bill users based on CPU usage!
Along with this I got a LOT of other stuff. Amongst it all were several
RD-53's, which when I connect them up and try to boot the system from them
it gives me a ?54 RETRY. Does this mean that they are bad, or that they
are simply not bootable disks? Yes, I realize that the RD-53's are some of
the worst disks ever made, but I've got a lot around here right now.
I'm hoping to use one of the 53's in my VAXstation II/RC (I also got a full
fleged backplane yesterday to swap out with the resin filled one).
While I'm asking questions, I also got three non-DEC Hard Drives, I gather
they can be used with the MicroVAX's. One is a Imprimis Hard Drive Model
Number 94166-182, I've determined it's a ESDI 182Mb HD, I've got at least
one or two Plessey ESDI controllers that I picked up a couple weeks ago.
How do I go about formating these drives?
Zane
| Zane H. Healy | UNIX Systems Adminstrator |
| healyzh(a)ix.netcom.com (primary) | Linux Enthusiast |
| healyzh(a)holonet.net (alternate) | Classic Computer Collector |
+----------------------------------+----------------------------+
| For Empire of the Petal Throne and Traveller Role Playing, |
| see http://www.dragonfire.net/~healyzh/ |
| For the collecting of Classic Computers with info on them. |
| see http://www.dragonfire.net/~healyzh/museum.html |
At 05:17 AM 1/17/98 +0000, you wrote:
> I've got a Kaypro "portable" that I lift occasionally to keep fit
I can do better than that -- I've got a Zenith that makes the Kaypro look
pocket sized. *But* both fold up conveniently, and can be carried with one
hand. The IBM 5100 (and RS mIII, Commodore Pet, HP 85, etc.) is *not*
convenient to tote around on a regular basis.
I still maintain that any reference to portability IBM might have made
(aside from outright lie-- I mean marketing) simply refers to not needing a
moving company, air conditioning installer, electrician, etc. when moving
the office. I cannot accept that anyone at the time would have expected
someone to lug it around it with them.
--------------------------------------------------------------------- O-
Uncle Roger "There is pleasure pure in being mad
roger(a)sinasohn.com that none but madmen know."
Roger Louis Sinasohn & Associates
San Francisco, California http://www.crl.com/~sinasohn/
I recently purchased a computer from a gentleman in Indiana. During our
correspondence he mentioned that he had a bunch of parts for the Cordata.
To quote him:
>I also have enough Cordata pieces/parts to start my own repair shop:
>Powersupplies, MB's, cards of all sorts, keyboards, little springs, etc.
>etc. Know anyone wanting to suppliment their parts supplies? Somewhere
>out there is someone who would give their eye teeth for this stuff!
>
>If you would like any other old software - I got it!
I'm not interested, but maybe someone out there is. His name is Keith
Hoffman; his email address is kehoffman(a)juno.com Contact him directly if
interested. Like I said, I bought a computer from him, and he was extremely
reasonable and easy to deal with during that transaction.
Cliff Gregory
cgregory(a)lrbcg.com
