<I have spent all day trying to get VMS 5.4 loaded onto my 11/750, but
<I can't figure out how to get standalone backup to find the hard drive.
The 750 kit had one tu58 with standalone backup on it. You need to get
tape or other removeable media that is bootable.
<PS I shudder to think of my electric bill this month... Yesterday I
<installed and played with 4.3 BSD, today I tried to install VMS...
<Fortunately it is cool enough outside, I can just open the door to
<keep it from overheating...
Shouldn't be that bad for the vax alone, the disks I don't know.
Allison
Heads Up... here's the Deal:
After much mental anguish and thought-form hand wringing, I think
it is best that I unload a Hobby or two and concentrate on other
things..
Therefore:
Seeing as how the Computers are taking up over 30% of my living
space, consuming financial, electrical, and temporal resources, but
not getting used for months at a time... well, you get the Picture.
I am going to sell everything that I now have related to classic
computing.. that is, all the Minis and Micros and everything related
to them: parts, spares, software, documentation, peripherals, sales
material, the related books library, cables, stuff, junk, and even
the little plastic bags full of odd lockwashers.
The Collection is primarily DEC PDP-11 Minis, several 11/34s,
several 11/44s, a few uVAXen, two PRO-350 etc.
The Micros are Apple IIs, Kaypros, various early portables, an
Intecolor with display and trackball, NorthStar Horizons, etc etc
etc etc......
And, 'Yes' this includes the IMSAI, the Altair, and the Heathkit
Large Analogue Computer, and several other quite rare items.
There are not a lot of conditions, save that I will be asking
somewhere between the high four-figures / low five-figures in US
Dollars, and that the Buyer is expected to take *everything*.. ie no
'cherry picking'. My intent is to get my living room back, not start
a part-time surplus business. The Buyer must come to my location
with a truck big enough to do the job, unless the Buyer is local
enough to make two or three trips in the space of a weekend.
The deal will be: We agree on price, you pay me, the check clears
the bank, you show up with truck, we load gear all day, I wave
goodbye when you/it leaves, period, as in sale final, as-is,
where-is, don't even say the word 'warranty' around me.
I'll be happy to discuss in detail with you as to what works, what
doesn't, etc.
The only exception to all of this is the MINC-11, which has been
promised to the Computer History Museum at Moffet Field.
I will send a complete inventory to serious requestors... and
again I stress that this is an all-or-nothing, I'm leaving the Hobby
and never looking back type of deal.
I am located in Los Angeles, CA for your logistical information.
Cheers
John
Lawrence LeMay <lemay(a)cs.umn.edu> wrote:
> Gods gift to computing ;)
> Surely you're referring to something other than the 3000/200... They couldnt
> even write a proper FORTRAN compiler for it. And we never did use the
> 5.25" floppy drives, they didnt seem to provide a proper file oriented
> way to access them (though I suppose it could have been just a lack
> of documentation).
Sounds like a 9000 to me; there never was a 3000 series 200. The only
floppy disc drives I ever heard of on 3000s were 8", and I don't think
that notion caught on.
And if you were using a 3000, you'd have noticed! 3000s don't run
Unix, they run MPE, which (back then at least) was clearly not
Unix-like. They also used to have a thoroughly record-structured
filesystem. Most folks just hate that, though I can't fathom why.
-Frank McConnell
Hi all,
I have spent all day trying to get VMS 5.4 loaded onto my 11/750, but
I can't figure out how to get standalone backup to find the hard drive.
My configuration:
CPU:
11/750
Massbus?
Emulex SC750/B? (RM03/RM05/RM80 compatible)
Fujitsu Eagle (M2351?)
Emulex SC750/B? (RM03/RM05/RM80 compatible)
Memory:
14Meg
Unibus:
TU80 controller
misc other boards
4.3 BSD recognizes the Fuji drive, and calls it hp(0,0), but I can't
get standalone backup (version 4.4) to recognize it...
Any suggestions? I've tried DUA0, DRA0, DBA0, and several others...
Thanks in advance,
clint
PS I shudder to think of my electric bill this month... Yesterday I
installed and played with 4.3 BSD, today I tried to install VMS...
Fortunately it is cool enough outside, I can just open the door to
keep it from overheating...
<He said _a_ 2909. That implies a 4 bit microcode address, which limits it
<to 16 locations. 16 micorocode words and a 4 bit ALU is a small processor
<IMHO. And being an AMD design they won't have simply concatenated an
<'instruction' from external memory (which this board probably doesn't
<have anyway) with those 4 bits.
The 16word microcode limit is the greater problem but, once you understand
how it word concatinating a few more solves that nicely. It's one heck of a
demonstrator.
<For people who've not come across the AMD sequencer chips, they're quite
<nice, and even have things like a return stack (about 4 levels IIRC) to
<allow for subroutines in the microcode.
Depends on which one. the 2910 is 5 and the 09/11 is 4. They are pretty
useful parts for lots of things.
<The 2910 is essentially 3 2909s together with some glue logic in a single
<chip. If you only need 4K of control store it's a nice chip _but it can't
<be extended to give more bits without kludging_. Three rivers made that
<mistake on the PERQ -- the first PERQ had 4K of control store and used a
<2910, all later models had 16K and used a 2910 and a '2 bit kludge' (pun
<intended!).
;) 2910 is a good part and easy to live with unless your doing complex
stuff.
Allison
Hello, all you guys out there
I'm wanting to try out one (or both) of Open BSD and NetBSD on my lil' ol'
Amiga -- I really need someone who has gone through the teething process of
formatting drives and instaling necessary files, etc.
Amiga o/s is neat, but Id like to get into something with a more viable
future.
Gary Hildebrand WA7KKP
Amigaphile and boatanchor collector
PS -- liked that ref to Univax -- reminded me of the Jetsons cartoon where
the robot was called Uniblab . . .
I still have two quick-reference guides for HP1000's available. Cost is
$5.00 each (includes mailing costs -- I decided to discount them some more).
First two takers in order of arrival of an E-mailed response get them.
Thanks much.
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Bruce Lane, Owner and head honcho, Blue Feather Technologies
http://www.bluefeathertech.com // E-mail: kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com
Amateur Radio: WD6EOS since Dec. '77
"Our science can only describe an object, event, or living thing in our
own human terms. It cannot, in any way, define any of them..."
Thanks go to Craig Smith and Paxton Hoag for claiming the last of the
HP1000 quick-ref guides.
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Bruce Lane, Owner and head honcho, Blue Feather Technologies
http://www.bluefeathertech.com // E-mail: kyrrin(a)bluefeathertech.com
Amateur Radio: WD6EOS since Dec. '77
"Our science can only describe an object, event, or living thing in our
own human terms. It cannot, in any way, define any of them..."
On February 27, Innfogra(a)aol.com wrote:
> I just noticed that I have a 6 wide, Probably Unibus, DEC card with 8 Am
> 2901s on it. The number on the tab is L0400. Any idea what it is?
That's the data path board for a CI750, which is a CI interface for
a VAX-11/750.
-Dave McGuire
