Steve Robertson <steverob(a)hotoffice.com> wrote:
> I hooked up a serial thinkjet to one of the ports but didn't get the
> configuration just right. Originally, I tried to configure the serial port
> as an "LP" device but, the system balked. It said that I couldn't mix device
> types on the same ATP controller. In other words: If I have a TERM attached,
> I couldn't have a LP attached at the same time.
Right. Device classes have access types, and you can't put device
classes with different access types on the same device.
> So, I set up the printer up as a terminal (don't recall type and sub-type)
> and it sorta worked. I think some of the control sequences are not quite
> right. I'll have to tinker with it until I get the right combo. Is it
> possible to set it up this way and still have the print jobs spooled?
Yes. You want to set the logical device up like something like this:
TYPE? 32
SUBTYPE? 14 for direct connect, 15 for modem connect
ENTER [TERM TYPE#], [DESCRIPTOR FILENAME]? 18 or maybe 20, not sure
SPEED IN CHARACTERS PER SECOND? depends, use bps/10
RECORD WIDTH? (chars per line)/2
OUTPUT DEVICE? 0
ACCEPT JOB/SESSION? no
ACCEPT DATA? no
INTERACTIVE? no
DUPLICATIVE? no
INITIALLY SPOOLED? can be yes, can be no
INPUT OR OUTPUT? out
DRIVER NAME? HIOASLP0
DEVICE CLASSES? probably LP
Regarding "initially spooled": if you say yes, I'd set a high OUTFENCE
(probably OUTFENCE 13) in SYSSTART.PUB.SYS so that the spooler won't
try to start printing spooled output right away on boot (which might
lose output if the printer is switched off or disconnected). The
alternative is to make the device not initially spooled and start
spooling manually with a STARTSPOOL command. I think I like initially
spooled with high outfence better.
-Frank McConnell
For dome timre I'm trying to connecyt my VAXStation 3100 to PC runing
Linux via TCP/IP and thin wire ethernet. I got TCP/IP services
(origanal Digital's tcp/ip for OpenVMS 7.2) running and passing all
internal test. However I can't get connection. I suppose the problem
is in network interface.
Interface passes boot time test and i can get it's hardware addres, so
it is OK I hope. The swith on the back of unit is set properly - the
green LED is lit on side of BNC connector.
Using '$ SHOW DEV' command I can see one network interface 'ESA0:' which
is online and labelaed as 'template devece' (whatever it means...).
After starting up TCP/IP I get two other interfaces 'ESA3:' and 'ESA5:'
owned by processes related to TCP/IP services.
Does anybody know what I've to do to get my network up ?
Maciek
Steve Robertson <steverob(a)hotoffice.com>
>
> So if you really want a printer, you might want to think about a
> serial printer plugged into one of the ATP ports. I used to run a
> 2563A that way in the mid-1980s; 9600 bps did OK at keeping up with
> a 300 LPM printer that was used to print COBOL listings.
>
I hooked up a serial thinkjet to one of the ports but didn't get the
configuration just right. Originally, I tried to configure the serial port
as an "LP" device but, the system balked. It said that I couldn't mix device
types on the same ATP controller. In other words: If I have a TERM attached,
I couldn't have a LP attached at the same time.
So, I set up the printer up as a terminal (don't recall type and sub-type)
and it sorta worked. I think some of the control sequences are not quite
right. I'll have to tinker with it until I get the right combo. Is it
possible to set it up this way and still have the print jobs spooled?
Hi everybody,
Just wanted to let you know that the retrocomputing web site I've been
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Thanks to those of you who helped out with the collecting survey. And
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-----Original Message-----
From: Megan <mbg(a)world.std.com>
To: classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org <classiccmp(a)classiccmp.org>
Date: Tuesday, March 14, 2000 10:57 PM
Subject: Re: Mutant01 IP = 205.138.39.180
>
>>While the effort is noble, I suspect the repeated "my IP address
>>changed" messages will grow old quickly. Perhaps the changes could be
>>posted somewhere such that interested parties can obtain the
>>information over the web, or with finger?
>
>I agree... the updates *have* grown old already... they are
>a waste of bandwidth... I tried one of them and got to an
>OS/2 system... I'm not sure if it counts yet as classic... it
>surely is not as interesting as an RT/RSTS/RSX/TOPS10/ITS system
>might be...
>
>The DG hardware may be more interesting... but I'm not famliar
>enough with them to know what to do with it...
>
>Either way, I agree that it would probably be more useful to put
>the info up on a web page somewhere, send us all one (1) pointer
>to it... and those who are interested will bookmark it to check
>what the address is...
>
>Just my $.02
I agree. I recommend putting up a link on a webpage like mine and then
updating it with an IP poster. My IP numbers change *very* rarely but it is
a good idea to still use a link on a webpage that is updated by an IP
poster. I still recommend using a Windows box for the job, a cheap 75Mhz
Pentium with Windows 95 will easily handle 7 TELNET connections at 9600
baud. I am moving mine over to a new Celeron box tomorrow morning for
dedicated 24/7 connections to my PDP-8/11s
http://www.pdp8.com/1135.htm
Anyone here have any vintage software to run on a PDP-11 as a front end
connection server? Waterloo University used a PDP-11/45 back in the '70s in
front of their *huge* cluster of some 3-500 DEC minicomputers. I've got
heaps of DZ,DL,etc.. from the warehouse so serial ports are not a problem.
Expect the first version of DOS/BATCH-11 next week.
No electricity costs here ;-)
john
PDP-8 and other rare mini computers
http://www.pdp8.com
>
> Megan Gentry
> Former RT-11 Developer
>
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>
I've adopted a couple of MV3100/M76's in my quest for different VAX
hardware :-)
Having been using Q-bus VAXen for some time these have some mysteries that
I would like to explore.
First boot sequence, I know there is a list of boot errors somewhere, I
remember reading it but it isn't in any of my VAX book marks. I get these two:
? C 0080 0000.4001
? 6 80A1 0000.4001
The next mystery is the SCSI connector on the back. It isn't SCSI-2, what
is it?
I also got an expansion box (big fat SCSI I connector so no connection
there) with an TZ30 in it, can I move that into the M3100 for now? Is that
a supported config?
--Chuck
On Mar 15, 18:35, Tony Duell wrote:
> > Anyone here have any vintage software to run on a PDP-11 as a front end
> > connection server?
Nope, I don't have the software, but one of my 11/23's was originally a TCP
(see below) at Edinburgh University.
> > Waterloo University used a PDP-11/45 back in the '70s in
> > front of their *huge* cluster of some 3-500 DEC minicomputers. I've got
> > heaps of DZ,DL,etc.. from the warehouse so serial ports are not a
problem.
>
> Cambridge Universtiy (UK) did something similar as a frontend to their
> IBM 3084 mainframe.
>
> As I understand it, the system consisted of units called JNT-PADs (which
> were basically Async -> X25 PADs) which took incoming connections from
> terminals and then sent them (as X25 packets) to DUP11s. There were other
> DUP11s handling external connections to/from JANET (UK academic network).
> Some local terminal connections came in on DJ11 lines. These were on the
> Unibus of a number of PDP11s (11/45s, later 11/34s) which communicated
via
> DMC11s and DMR11s. There were a couple of DX11s that linked the PDP's to
> an IBM channel.
Edinburgh Regional Computing Centre (part of Edinburgh University) used to
do something similar. According to the chart I still have (dated 1985),
ERCC had eleven 11/10s, eight 11/23s, three 11/40s, and a few 11/34s and
11/03s connected as Terminal Control Processors (TCPs, basically front end
processors for fixed or dialup terminal lines). I'm not sure what the
interfaces were, but my 11/23 had a pair of DLV11-Js when I got it, and
originally a synchronous line as well (which I think went to a GEC packet
switch). ERCC also had an 11/34 and an 11/40 connected to the central
processors to handle "slow devices", and fourteen CAMTEC PADs, as well as
several VAXen, other PDP-11s running RSX, a few Systimes, a few Pr1mes, a
couple of DEC 10s, an Amdahl 470, a few big ICL 2900 mainframes, a few
GECs, and at least one Data General machine.
Altogether, Ednet supported 33 local host systems, 100 synchronous and 1521
async connections.
Leeds University also did something similar, up to about 1992. They had
three 11/34s with (AFAIR) 32 serial lines each (mostly Emulex devices)
feeding a pair of DX11s into a big Amdahl. The 11/34s ran some homegrown
software, booted from an RX02. There was also a couple of 11/73s, one of
which was in a proprietary unit that incorporated a DX11-alike on two (or
maybe three) Q-bus boards. That one also had some wierd CAMTEC ethernet
interface in it. I've got one of the 11/34s, and one of the 11/73s; one of
my friends has one of the DX11s.
--
Pete Peter Turnbull
Dept. of Computer Science
University of York
As all most of us "Old-timers" know, when you read a prompt that reads "To
continue, press any key", pressing any key on the keyboard will take you to
whatever is next. I read recently that on a few Compaq keyboards there
actually was a key labelled the "Any" key! Now *that's* what I call
idiot-proofing! (iSore, eat your processor out!)
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Computer Collection:
"Triumph": Commodore 64C, 1802, 1541, FSD-1, GeoRAM 512, Okimate 20.
"Leela": Macintosh 128 (Plus upgrade), Nova SCSI HDD, Imagewriter II.
"Delorean": TI-99/4A.
"Monolith": Apple Macintosh Portable.
"Spectrum": Tandy Color Computer 3.
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>Just got in a couple of RF35s off of eBay for use
>in my MV3800 project. What has me intrigued is
>that they are labeled "RF35 / RZ35".
>
>I thought RZ was a SCSI designation. My DEC docs
>are dated, anybody can shed light on this ?
I have a number of these as well.. I believe that the HDA can be
used with either an RZ (SCSI) or RF(DSSI) board...
Make sure that you know for sure which board it has on it... both
types will say 'rz35/rf35'...
Easy way to know... the power connector will be 4-pin for SCSI
and 5-pin for DSSI (at least all the ones I have are like that).
Megan Gentry
Former RT-11 Developer
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DSL is in and functional, at least at a basic level. I can't -believe- the
speed increase!
With basic router configuration dealt with, I'm going to (over the course
of the next couple of weeks) get the servers and DNS authority taken care
of. I'll post a note when I have my domain entirely under my control.
Honestly, I'm surprised the router configuration was as easy as it was.
Definitely something to be said for Livingston boxes...
Gotta run back to work for a while. See you lot later!
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