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by allisonp＠world.std.com

>Ok, so does the hobbyiest license include a license to run DECnet? I tried >running NETCONFIG and it complained that I didn't have a license for DECnet >and I looked at the layered products and didn't see one in that list either. Yes it's included but did you load it? Allison

26 years, 1 month

[ecollins@outstart.com: SCO site has Unix for download]

by mrbill＠mrbill.net

----- Forwarded message from Efton Collins <ecollins(a)outstart.com> ----- From: "Efton Collins" <ecollins(a)outstart.com> To: <PUPS(a)minnie.cs.adfa.edu.au> Subject: SCO site has Unix for download Date: Sun, 14 May 2000 01:46:34 -0400 Hey, You may have seen it already, but I haven't seen an announcement on the PUPS list - SCO has got Unix 5th, 6th and 7th Editions, Mini Unix, System III and 32V available on their site for download. You can access them by going to www.sco.com/offers/ancient.html and accepting the license. Congratulations PUPS, this is a milestone. Efton ----- End forwarded message ----- -- +--------------------+-------------------+ | Bill Bradford | Austin, Texas | +--------------------+-------------------+ | mrbill(a)sunhelp.org | mrbill(a)mrbill.net | +--------------------+-------------------+

26 years, 1 month

Cosmos spoken for. ;)

by dogas＠leading.net

Stephen Hawkin was on Larry King last night. Quite the remarkable fellow. They also clipped in a shot of Cosmos, the computer being used in today's quantum cunstructions on the theory of everything. Carl Sagan was a god of mine, so I just wanted to call dibs on ole Cosmos when she's decommissioned. ;) Anyone have any specs on the machine? ;) Mike: dogas(a)leading.net

26 years, 1 month

What is NAS ?

by CLASSICCMP＠trailing-edge.com

>Ok, I've confirmed that you can in fact reproduce the VMS Consolidated >distribution using a suitably equipped machine with a CD-R drive. Now, one >question I have is what is "NAS" ? There are 12 disks of layered products, >one OS disk, one supplementary products disk, and two NAS disks. What >is/was NAS? I forget what NAS was originally supposed to stand for, but it consists of the "basic necessities" for modern operation. Workstation NAS is a package consisting of DECWindows/Motif, DECNET, TCP/IP, some network printing stuff, and a VMScluster license. Server NAS is a package consisting of the above plus Pathworks, Volume Shadowing, and a few other things. The exact "other things" depends on the exact NAS package (there higher the number, the more extra stuff - the numbers I'm familiar with are 150, 250, and 400.) -- Tim Shoppa Email: shoppa(a)trailing-edge.com Trailing Edge Technology WWW: http://www.trailing-edge.com/ 7328 Bradley Blvd Voice: 301-767-5917 Bethesda, MD, USA 20817 Fax: 301-767-5927

26 years, 1 month

PDP-11 support for GNU binutils

by mew_jac＠swbell.net

Check this: http://news.nocrew.org/display.html?id=83

26 years, 1 month

Proxim RangeLAN wireless stuff

by mrbill＠mrbill.net

Its very close ('92-93) to ten years old, but I'll be brief - anybody know of a use for some Proxim RangeLAN/ISA cards and a still-new-in-box RangeLAN/PCMCIA kit? Please reply to me offline. Bill -- +--------------------+-------------------+ | Bill Bradford | Austin, Texas | +--------------------+-------------------+ | mrbill(a)sunhelp.org | mrbill(a)mrbill.net | +--------------------+-------------------+

26 years, 1 month

Donate old computer gear.... (fwd)

by vcf＠siconic.com

Here's a chap in Cambridge, UK, who's got an Osborne portable that needs a new home. I don't know if it's an original portable or not. The original portable has a tan case. The newer version has a grey & blue case. The Osborne Executive (pretty much similar to the Osborne 1 but with some improvements) has a grey & black case. Please contact the original sender directly to inquire. Reply-to: ILygo(a)aol.com ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 13 May 2000 13:05:51 EDT From: ILygo(a)aol.com Subject: Donate old computer gear.... Donate Your Old Computer Stuff to the Vintage Technology Cooperative Resource Center I found your web site for the VCF and noted the above section. I have an Osborne portable CPM computer with CPM software, Word Supercalc 1 etc. I do not want to dump it as it got me started in this great but sometimes frustrating business of computing (I currently contract using Lotus Domino to build Knowledge Management systems and intranets). The snag is I am in the UK (near Cambridge). Ian Lygo Sellam International Man of Intrigue and Danger ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Looking for a six in a pile of nines... Coming soon: VCF 4.0! VCF East: Planning in Progress See http://www.vintage.org for details!

26 years, 1 month

What is NAS ?

by cmcmanis＠mcmanis.com

Ok, I've confirmed that you can in fact reproduce the VMS Consolidated distribution using a suitably equipped machine with a CD-R drive. Now, one question I have is what is "NAS" ? There are 12 disks of layered products, one OS disk, one supplementary products disk, and two NAS disks. What is/was NAS? --Chuck

26 years, 1 month

Really Why I Hate eBay

by foo＠siconic.com

Well, upon thinking about it some more it finally struck me why I really hate eBay. Before eBay I was able to build a fairly significantly collection through a lot of hard work. This included a lot of searching, a lot of walking, a lot of driving, a lot of bargaining, lot of hauling, some sweat, some blood, perhaps a few tears, etc. Through all this hard work I was able to amass a very nice collection of historical computer artifacts. It took some money as well, but the journey was the reward as they say. After eBay came it along, anybody with a little money (or rather a considerable amount of money in most cases) could amass a collection to perhaps rival mine without any of the hard work: without the journey. I guess it's typical human resentment. I resent the fact that my hard work could be equaled by a large number of dollars. I feel that a collection that can be bought so easily can not really be a collection in the sense that mine is, but something else entirely. But what really do I have to be resentful about? I've had the journey, which is something money can't buy. I have the harrowing stories to tell and the stories of those whom I've acquired the artifacts from. You can't get that from eBay (unless you can somehow dramatically depict the act of picking up a package from your porch). So behind all my anti-eBay rants, what I'm saying is, this hobby is much more rewarding when there has been work involved in creating your collection. It's kinda like the difference between actually going out and hunting for your meat as opposed to just picking it off atop your horse after having it herded towards you. Remember, you're not just creating a collection, you're recording a story. So there you have it. My true feelings on the matter. It's like Being Sellam Ismail (only better because you get to go back being you now ;)

26 years, 1 month

DEC stuff

by allisonp＠world.std.com

>If that fails, then you can try opening the HDA (screws on top) and >freeing the head by hand. Needless to say this should really be done in a >clean room, but you can _often_ get away with doing it in a normal room >if you keep the dust down (obviously, don't smoke, and keep the cat out >of the way :-)). Hints for those that have to resort to this. First clean the outside well, use compressed air and a damp rag to wipe it. This gets rid of local dust Wipe the area too. then wash hands, you laugh! Washing the hands gets rid of oils and dust that and all. Now, you can open the cover, use clean tools as well. once the cover is loose you can get inside. To do this part the drive needs to be powered as it's not safe to move the heads with the platter not rotating. Control cables are not needed, just power. Power up and observe the platters and heads, likely you will see spin up but, no head movement. If this is the case with the patters spinning give the head arm a push, if thing go well it will sweep the full travel then home in on track 0000. Now the drive can be covered. For the brave used to fine work a liitle plastic (clear packing tape) over the offending bumper will prevent this from happening again. hopefully the rescued drive has no other problems and an OS. If the head will not move the head lock (under the HDA and controboards on the bottom may be stuck. if it is put the cover on flip it over and remove the solenoid (it will run fine without it, never ship it though!). Retry the spinup. I've done this on several drives, all of which I still use. What makes this work is the basic design and physics. Spin those platters at 3600 rpm and landing on them heads for the walls. Since there is rotation there is a basic airflow pattern that insures and dust in side gets picked up. Fingerprints on the platter are bad though but I've never had a crashed one, though I did take one with other bad problems and try a few things. Oh, it took writing on the platter with pencil to make the head crash. ;) Anywho I've found this drive has two problems, heat and heat. The bumper problem is heat related. So if you keep the drive cool it does seem to last many years. this is true for a lot of the older drives. Keep them fans goin. Allison

26 years, 1 month

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