At 10:29 AM 6/19/97 -0400, you wrote:
>"Evil Empire?" == Use the Farce, Duke! == First, if you have an Atari ST,
>(and I think TOS 1.4 or above... getting my ST next weekend! Wheeeee! ;-)
>it can read/write/format PC floppies.
The atari ST could always (well, production models on, anyway) read/write PC
floppies. Formatting, however, was initially a problem. It seems there's
an unused field somewhere in the admin stuff on a pc floppy that Atari
figured didn't matter. So they left it blank. But, for some reason, IBM
machines needed some value in there. (I'm probably way oversimplifying, and
making errors...)
So floppies formatted on the atari worked fine on the atari, but if you
wanted to use the floppy on both machines, you needed to format it on the PC
(or use a third party formatter that fixed the problem.) Some later version
of TOS (1.4?) fixed this.
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Ok, got another freebie for the group. I have the infamous DEC 'Orange
Wall' worth of docs on VMS 4.whatever, at least a couple of big boxes
worth. As I don't anticipate running VMS (heck, I don't own a big VAX!)
anytime soon, I would rather see these go to someone who needs them.
If no one speaks up, I'll recycle the innards and use the binders. First
one who wants to visit me in Kent, WA can have 'em!
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| In my experience, the "volunteers" at the Salvation Army
filtered out
| anything that even resembled computers so that they could sell
it
| themselves. If it comes in a box and has a detach keyboard
(i.e. looks
| like a PC) it never gets to the showroom floor. Trust me....
I *know*
Well, I don't think they're selling them themselves... if they have a
policy (perhaps nationally) like the western washington Salvation Army
headquarters in downtown Seattle, they auction off pallets of donated
computer equipment to the for-profit thrift organizations such as Value
Village, Thriftko and Shop & Save.
Unfortunately, the Seattle headquarters holds the auctions not monthly,
not weekly, but DAILY, and at 8:30 AM !!!
Kai
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| From: James Willing
| Subject: Re: Mark 8
|
| On Wed, 18 Jun 1997, Marvin wrote:
|
| > I need another project :) and I was thinking about building
the Mark 8
| > computer. Somewhere, I seem to recall that someone was
having the board
| > sets for this computer made up, does anyone out there know
or remember
| > who might be doing this?
|
| That would be me...
If you get one of these up and running, I have a Scelbi book, "Space
Wars for the 8008 Microprocessor" with full hex code listings...
Kai
At 09:48 AM 6/18/97 -0700, you wrote:
>negotiations for everyone. But I think it would be best if one person
>did the negotiating and made the deal. It depends on what everyone
I agree... We could have them shipped to one place and re-shipped from
there; USPS should be around $3-5 if you're not in a hurry. (And I'm not
worried about them becoming obsolete before I get mine...)
If they're shipped to the bay area, I've got lots of boxes and packing
materials I need to get rid of... (I'd volunteer to handle it, but I'm new
to the mailing list, and if it were me, I would trust me yet.)
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From: Paul E Coad <pcoad(a)crl.com>
Subject: Weekend Acquisitions III
>...Get money. Go back to thrift. The VIC was still there.
>Bought the box of stuff for $5. This included VIC-20 (still untested),
>CN2 (my 3rd!), 3K, 8K, and 16K memory carts, super expander cart (with
>manual), Forth Cart with box and manual, programmer's aid cart, machine
>language monitor cart, 7 cart games, and a few cassette games.
(think Homer Simpson Voice): Mmmmm Utilities!
I have about 20 or so various Commodore datasettes, from a couple
butchered Sanyo decks Commodore stuck in the first PETs to a clone one.
Almost tempted to pick up another today -along with the 64 it was being
sold with-
>Saturday noon
>Went back to the sale and met up with Uncle Roger and his girlfriend.
>We had an excellent lunch. Swapped a few stories. Went home and
>explained to my wife why I NEED 2 more Sun keyboards.
Fortunately for me my wife understands, as she has read, it is easier
to get along with your spouse if each of you have a money-pit hobby,
hers is mainly knitting, spinning, and fabrics, and mine classic
computers. I understand when she needs that third sewing machine and
she understands the gleam in my eye as a snag another 4040 dual drive.
>--pec
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From: Kai Kaltenbach <kaikal(a)MICROSOFT.com>
Subject: RE: PONG
>...Several years before Pong, Nolan created a more
>sophisticated game called Computer Space, built by Nutting and
>Associates.
>Computer Space was the first arcade video game.
>Trust me, I own all of them.
>Kai
I have been curious what was Computer Space like????? I keep reading
about it, but no good descriptions. What were the controls, the layout,
the game play, etc.
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SuperPET update!
Well I was a little bit conservative in my estimation of
daughterboards on the SuperPET, the count is now three (well technically
four, one of the daughterboards has a daughterboard itself.) I
discovered the bottom-most daughterboard seemed to be loose so I had to
do a partial diassembly to get to it.
It would seem that the bottom-most daughterboard plugs directly into
the 6502 socket of the 8032 motherboard, and that daughterboard was not
seated in the socket (which is raised with about 4 stacked chip
sockets!) Continuing on, I discover that also some of the pins on the
bottom of the daughterboard were bent and *sigh* some broke upon attempt
to get them back in line (they should be replaceable, but not too
easily.) For now, I decided to re-assemble it (and all the various
cross-connections and such).
Also, I had gotten word back from the person who has a SuperPET and
set the switches to work as an expanded 8032. I now can get the
'jingle' sound and a screen full of garbage characters! (Not a complete
victory, but a very good amount of progress here!)
Plus, the gentleman does have some of the disks:
>Yes, I have most of the Waterloo software stuff, for sure the assembly
>stuff, the Pascal possibly, the Fortran for sure, and possibly the
>BASIC. I may even have the Cobol stuff...
I really don't have the time or space to do much more presently, (one
of these decades when I retire or win the lottery) but will work on
getting a set of the disks, for future use. This is so much fun, my
Commodore collection is getting there!
Larry Anderson
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Here's some info from the guy about the AIM65s. They sound like nice units.
Marvin, please e-mail me so we aren't stepping on each other's toes.
Sam
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Date: Wed, 18 Jun 1997 13:02:40 -0400 (EDT)
From: Mikeooo1(a)aol.com
To: dastar(a)crl.com
Subject: Re: Aim65
Dear Sam,
They are all in new working condition.The beauty about the Aim 65 is that
it was a single board computer which was self contained in that it had its
display,printer,and memory all mounted on its board so that peripheral
attachments weren't necessary.Yes,it comes with a keyboard and power supply
also.I developed a plastic enclosure and metal base and ROM board for the
system so the keyboard and power supply could be housed with the Aim in a
compact unit and programs could be burned onto eproms which would seat in the
ROM board rather than rely on tape storage which involves a recorder hookup
and would be quite slow.
Best Regards
Mike
>One question that does come up is how to handle the repackaging and
>remailing assuming we can buy them as a bulk deal. I have access to a
I'm sure there will be enough people in the bay area to warrant a dinner
get-together to distribute a bulk package.
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Sam Ismail <dastar(a)crl.com> writes:
> 1. What is an Aim65?
It's a singleboard 6502 system/eval kit from Rockwell, sort of like
the MOS/CBM KIM-1, only different. 6502, some RAM, some ROM
(sockets?), 20-char LED display, QWERTY keyboard, cash-register
printer, a couple of bus connectors off the left side of the board.
Actually, I'm not sure if the display, keyboard, and printer were
there on all of them but I remember them being sold with those in the
late 1970s/early 1980s.
> 2. What is a good price to offer to buy/sell one?
A few years ago I paid $5 for one at Foothill. It had apparently been
OEMd into a nutrition advising system of some sort, as that is what
seemed to be in the ROMs and it came in a cheap plastic case that
pretty much hid the guts (just sturdy enough to be a frame for the
AIM-65 and the power supply). No documentation, either for the AIM-65
itself or for the nutrition software.
I don't recall for sure, but would expect that an AIM-65 from Rockwell
would have come with something other than the nutrition software in
the ROM sockets. Somewhere I do have an AIM-65 manual but it is (like
most of my collection at present) in storage.
-Frank McConnell
