Does anyone out there have any information on the escape sequences needed
to control a DEC Mini Exchange? These are the serial switches that were
often used for printer and modem sharing on Rainbow 100 systems. I'm
trying to write a program to access it, but no luck. Any help is
appreciated!
-Jeff Armstrong
jba(a)sdf.lonestar.org
SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org
>Apparently all DOS 3.5" floppies are FAT format with the capacity
>is 1,457,664 bytes, regardless the version, after accounting for the
>two hidden files, so...
>Is there a way I can patch or debug the floppy after generic
>format to make it look bootable?
I thought there was a Format /b switch to set a floppy as bootable (which
is different then Format /s which sets as bootable AND copies system
files). Of course, I seem to recall that as an option with DOS, so I
don't know if it is an option with something higher. A quick look in
Win2k doesn't list /b as an option (or /s, and neither seem to work when
tried).
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
On 12 Apr 2004 at 10:45, I wrote:
> If you look on the lower left-rear of the big unit below the serial
> plate, you'll see that it says "64100A Mainframe." :-)
I've never owned a 64110A (portable) mainframe. Pictures in the sales
literature of the time, though, show the model number plate on the lower
right-hand side of the fold-down keyboard below the cursor keys.
-- Dave
Does anyone know anything about the Burroughs head-per-track disk
drives? Must be 1960s mainframe technology. We had two of these
gadgets attached to a (modified) CTL Modular One at Westfield College,
London. It was all scrapped out in the 1980s, but I still have a
power supply from one of the drives. Is it any use to anybody (it's
now in Bristol)? It's a massive transformer, rectifier and capacitor
setup.
--
John Honniball
coredump(a)gifford.co.uk
The magnetic tape you have is for the IBM Magnetic Tape Selectric Typewriter. This machine was the first "Word Processing" device ever marketed. It was introduced 40 years ago in May of 1964!
Neither the term "word processor" or "text editor" existed at that time. After being on the market for about two years IBM sales representatives familiar with "data processing" began to call the concept "word processing", thus the term evolved.
The product was priced at $10,500 (in 1964 dollars!) It included a full size Steelcase desk with a recessed typewriter and a tape console 1' w x 2.5' d x 3' h that weighed about 100 lbs.
Text was entered on the typewriter keyboard, recorded on the tape and edited by playing text back from the tape a character, word, line, etc. at a time. Print speed was an awsome 15 characters per second.
Not sure what happened to your query in 2002 but I found it now. Not even sure which message treading service I am looking at (via Google).
Wondered if you still have the 7100 as I have just acquired one. It does boot (from the 20M HD) and seems to work fine. I also wondered if there was some legacy software to boot it from in the event that its rom battery goes flat. Maybe you can help? I imagine that the boot info could be retrieved from the rom via a ZIP disk from the parallel port if I knew how.
Bob Barrett, Adelaide
I'm sorry, but I've worked extensively on many differen't unices, and AIX is
truely evil. Guess if it's the only unix you deal with so you don't keep
having to switch mentality between AIX and everything else...
Jay
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I am still cleaning out stuff I don't need. I sold the MobilePro
sometime ago and just ran across this stuff.
NEC MobilePro Software including Windows CE, NEC free software CD,
Sprynet for Windows CE CD, VGA monitor adapter for the MobilePro, and
other paperwork that came with the unit. $15.00 plus $3.85 USPS Priority
Mail including delivery confirmation.
Hi,
I have to backup a HP 9153C hpib disk drive without having access to
a suitable computer. I decided to use NetBSD for the purpose, as it
contains basic framework for gpib and cs80 disk drives, unfortunately
not for this specific model. Browsing trough the list archives
revealed that there were efforts on a similar project, and scanned
copies of the protocol description floated around.
Please who still has these protocol descriptions can you mail me a
copy (of course printed versions are welcome too)?
Also any information on the 9153C are welcome.
Thank you,
Gabor Zele
Forgot to ask one more thing...
Brad Parker <brad(a)heeltoe.com> wrote:
> "BE-T173I-ME","TU58#34 11725/730 CONSOLE","1982,1984"
> "BE-T175I-DE","TU58#35 11725/730 DIAG SUPER","PROPERTY OF DEC","1982,1984"
> "BE-T176I-DE","TU58#36 11725/730 MICRODIAG","PROPERTY OF DEC","1982,1983"
Any idea on where do the "TU58#34" and 35 and 36 numbers came from? Are they
on the tape label? Does the label look original DEC or secondary? Do those
numbers (34/35/36) appear printed by DEC or by someone else? These numbers are
also written on the tapes themselves as each tape contains a zero-length marker
file named TU58xx.VI0, with xx being 34, 35 or 36. But it would be strange for
such numbers to come from DEC: I don't think DEC thought of their diags as being
"TU58 #suchandsuch", I think they thought of them as being 2-5-2 numbers (the
ones starting with BE- in this case).
> I think
> I have some 750 console tapes also, which I'll put up as soon as I read
> them.
I have a seemingly-pristine 750 console tape image on my FTP site. It came from
an Ultrix source tree IIRC. It would be nice to compare it with what you have.
MS
Brad Parker <brad(a)heeltoe.com> wrote:
> In my quest to read every tu58 tape on the planet (one needs a goal :-),
> I managed to read 3 tu58 tapes today.
Nice job. I have downloaded your images and they look fine.
Your console tape has microcode version 57. The one on my FTP site is not
pristine, but has microcode version 58, so it should have one fewer ucode bug,
or at least so one would hope. :-) Of course it's nice to have both.
The diag supervisor and microdiag should be quite helpful if anyone has a 730
that's feeling a bit sick. Also the diag supervisor is not specific to the 730,
it originates from the 780 and runs on all large VAXen. I will use it as part
of the validation process for the new VAX CPU I'm building. (Even if we do
some day manage to pry AXE out of HP with the help of some KGB death squad, the
VAX should still pass the basic diag first before attempting a random test like
AXE.)
I'm still waiting for the TU58s that I've recently bought on eBay that have the
rest of the diags. Brad, I'll talk to you in private about them.
> I also hacked an ancient CP/M program which reads RT11 disk images to
> run on linux.
Those who prefer the original UNIX to Linux can save the effort and use the
standard arff(8) console media manipulation utility that comes standard with all
VAX UNIX distributions. You don't need to actually run UNIX on the large VAX
in order to use it, it'll happily run on a MicroVAX running 4.3BSD-Quasijarus
and operate on an image file.
MS
Can anyone give a coherent description of the difference pdp 11/44
boxes? (I assume they're all BA11's)
I have some 11/44 cpu cards but no box and apparently there are 3 (or
more?) different boxes with 3 different power supply styles.
-brad
I have an RA61, an RA80 and an RA81 drive that I'd like to part with. I'm
not sure of the exact condition of the drives since I don't have the
ability to connect them and see whether they work or not. All three are
mounted in a rollable rack.
What I'd consider for trade is PDP-11 stuff. If you don't want to trade,
but want the drives, make an offer. Tell me what you have and we'll see
what we can do. :)
Location of these drives is Slidell, Louisiana -- about 30 miles north of
New Orleans.
Cheers,
Chris Cureau
I got two 128mb compact flash cards off ebay, they didn't work in the 200LX
either. That left me with it had to be a problem with the 200LX or the
compactflash to pcmcia adapter I was using. Went to bestbuy and got a
cf->pcmcia adapter and it works fine now. So it would appear the cf->pcmcia
adapter that I robbed from an old digital cam was "nonstandard", as it works
in the cam.
So last night I was able to boot up unix on the 200LX. Like a geek I was
giggling all night. Very cool to have a multiuser unix box in my shirt
pocket :)
Jay
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Hello,
Does anyone have any information on these old minis? The BTI-4000 was
based on
the HP 21MX and ran their own timeshared basic. The 5000 and 6000 (and
later 8000) were proprietary cpus I believe. I can get access to old
tapes (and
even an old machine) but I'd like to get it emulated under simh if I
could. These
machines were around in the late 70's and 80's. As far as I can tell,
BTI doesn't
exist anymore ... they were in Sunnyvale CA.
Any help, info, leads would be appreciated!
Thx,
Bill
>From: "Dave Dunfield" <dave04a(a)dunfield.com>
---snip---
>
>I find having the disassembler inject comments is very useful, as it
>allows me to re-run the disassembler at any time without losing the
>comments (very useful in the "oh crap - this block should really be
>WORD data - not BYTE data) situation.
>
Hi Dave
I agree, I think that being able to feed comments back into the
disassembler is one of the most important parts, like you.
I find that I needed a way to strip the comments from
the listing file and not simply type them into a separate
file. The method I've been using is maybe to simplified
because it doesn't allow inline comments but I've not
found this to be all that bad. One can still put one line
of comment with each line of code. I expect that the next
one I write, I may try to include some method of capturing
the comments that are inline with the code as well, though.
I originally had a separate file that I'd edit comments into
but found that I couldn't make myself do this every time.
I wanted to edit the comments into the listing file as
I figured things out. Going back and finding the comments
to feed back was always a pain. That is why the computer
generates the comment file from the listing file,
automatically for me. I guess I'm just to lazy. The
price was that I needed to make it easy for the computer
to find my new comments.
Dwight
Hello, all:
Does anyone have any idea how to connect a non-TI printer to the port on
the TI-74 BasicCalc? The actual printer unit is scarcer than hen's teeth.
Googling didn't produce any useful links other than general information
sites.
Thanks.
Rich
Rich Cini
Collector of classic computers
Build Master for the Altair32 Emulation Project
Web site: http://highgate.comm.sfu.ca/~rcini/classiccmp/
/************************************************************/
>>> COMMENTS!? I'd like to see a disassembler comment code! Humans
>>> even are areally bad at this...
> I add comments after the decompiling with a merge. The
>control file just has code start addresses and data block
>types/addresses. I even deal with labels in a separate file that
>is later merged to form the complete output file.
>I even put data in a separate file from the code.
>I like the idea of just merging it all when done.
>The disadvantage of this is that only computer generated
>comments exist on the same line as the code or labels
My disassemblers (see my web page) use two control files:
One controls how the disassembler views memory blocks, including
symbols, block type (code, byte data, word data, reversed word
data, strings etc.)
The other controls comments blocks. For each block, you provide
a memory address (or none=continuation of previous address), and
either block or line comments. Block comments are inserted as
separate lines. Line comments are appended to the end of the code
lines generated by the disassembler.
The disassembler can generate the initial memory control file with
generated symbol names for addresses which are referenced within
the code block. (Sorry - it can't generate initial comments :-) Then
in a highly manual and iterative process, you re-run the disassemler
over and over again, providing more information in these two files
as you "figure it out". The end result (if you stick with it long
enough) is an assembly source file indistinguishable from an original
source file (often better because many people use more meaningful
names and comment better during disassembly then they would when
writing original code!)
I find having the disassembler inject comments is very useful, as it
allows me to re-run the disassembler at any time without losing the
comments (very useful in the "oh crap - this block should really be
WORD data - not BYTE data) situation.
Regards,
--
dave04a (at) Dave Dunfield
dunfield (dot) Firmware development services & tools: www.dunfield.com
com Vintage computing equipment collector.
Hi All,
Well it was a good day for classic stuff at the U of A auction today.
For a whopping $2.50 i got:
A HP 9000 200 (double stack), have not looked inside yet. powers on but I need
to make a cable for a serial console.
A HP 7673 Controller! Whatever that is (same kind of case as the 9000 200)
A HP external storage case w/HDD a floppy with HP1B connector
A HP 9000 Apollo series 400, boots fine but has no HDD.
AND a box of around hundred and fifty 5 1/4 floppies that included:
1 complete set of AT&T Unix PC V.3.0 (32 disks) and probably 3-4 more "broken"
sets that are missing a few disks.
I wanna kick myself for passing on the AT&T 7300 in pristine condition about
two months ago for about $5.00 concluding I'd never find the Unix to go with it.
Go figure.
Cheers,
Tom
In my quest to read every tu58 tape on the planet (one needs a goal :-),
I managed to read 3 tu58 tapes today.
Naturally in the middle of the 4th tape the controller died. (looks like
the rs422 received failed for some reason... humm... digikey to the
rescue :-)
Anyway, I think I have valid vax 11/730 console and diag tape images.
The 730 console tape looks almost pristine except for 2 files added to
the end (I wonder if the original "defboo.cmd" has been replaced, but it
should be possible to reconstruct it with a little hackery)
http://www.heeltoe.com/download/vax/contentshttp://www.heeltoe.com/download/vax/BE-T173I-MEhttp://www.heeltoe.com/download/vax/BE-T175I-DEhttp://www.heeltoe.com/download/vax/BE-T176I-DE
BE-T173I-ME "BE-T173I-ME","TU58#34 11725/730 CONSOLE","1982,1984"
BE-T175I-DE "BE-T175I-DE","TU58#35 11725/730 DIAG SUPER","PROPERTY OF DEC","1982,1984"
BE-T176I-DE "BE-T176I-DE","TU58#36 11725/730 MICRODIAG","PROPERTY OF DEC","1982,1983"
I also hacked an ancient CP/M program which reads RT11 disk images to
run on linux. It allows one to read the dir, copy a file out, copy a
file in, type a file, etc... (it's like 'putr' but only knows rt11)
It can be used (on linux anyway) to read the tape images and get files
off them. I haven't used it to create a tape image yet, but plan to.
http://www.heeltoe.com/download/vax/rt11.tar.gz
I should have the drive running again once the UPS man arrives :-) I think
I have some 750 console tapes also, which I'll put up as soon as I read
them.
-brad
>From: "Ethan Dicks" <dickset(a)amanda.spole.gov>
>
>On Thu, Apr 08, 2004 at 01:46:55PM -0700, Tom Jennings wrote:
>> On Wed, 7 Apr 2004, Dwight K. Elvey wrote:
>>
>> > It is interesting that my definition of a disassembler is
>> > quite a bit different than yours. I would call this a code
>> > lister. A disassembler includes comments, selecting data types,
>>
>> COMMENTS!? I'd like to see a disassembler comment code! Humans
>> even are areally bad at this...
>
>I'm working with a tool that decompiles Z-Machine binaries (think
"Zork")
>into Inform source code. It injects comments into the output code when
you
>describe enum data types. Since decompiling is an iterative process,
one
>of the features I want to add to this tool is comments in the control
file
>that are copied verbatim to the output source file. It puts the burden
on
>the person running the decompiler to understand the output, but it would
>then be _possible_ to have commented output.
>
>-ethan
>
Hi Ethan
I add comments after the decompiling with a merge. The
control file just has code start addresses and data block
types/addresses. I even deal with labels in a separate file that
is later merged to form the complete output file.
I even put data in a separate file from the code.
I like the idea of just merging it all when done.
The disadvantage of this is that only computer generated
comments exist on the same line as the code or labels
( like the counts of how many times a label was used ).
Human comments are always on separate lines. This is
all controlled by the sorted address fields. Comments and
labels are attached to specific addresses that are used
during the merge of the various files.
This way, the comments are not part of the control file
( no specific advantage here ) but by sorting before merging,
disassembled code, comments and labels don't need to be
placed in the output files in any specific order. Comments
only need to have an address to show order. Order of these
sub pieces that may have the same address is controlled by
the merge order.
Comments can be easily extracted from an edited list file
by looking for text that doesn't have address. One simply
uses the next address after this text for the next iteration.
Comments are most easily added this way to the previous
output list file and feed back for the next iteration
and future iterations by placing them in the comment file.
The comment file also has the advantage that it can later
be edited to enhance comments or rearrange lines within
comments( remember a comment can be multiple lines with
the same address ).
I used the DOS sort ( 64K limit fixed by splitting
files ) and my own merge that takes any size files.
It is all handled in a batch file so I just take a break
while it runs.
Dwight
Rumor has it that Patrick may have mentioned these words:
> > sendmail is a piece of Swiss cheese when it comes to security and
> > it's only
> > of *when*, not *if* there is another security hole found.
>
>What server software does this not apply to? --Patrick ;-)
qmail.
There has *never* been a "user-permissions" exploit (as in any user being
able to gain any permissions to any other user, including root) and the few
bugs that have been found generally just make it die.
There was a new bug that was just found in it - if a user sends a mail with
a header line longer than 2Gbytes, it'll crash that particular process, and
I think the mail is lost to the ether.[1]
All other mails will still be delivered fine, tho.
Why is the most secure MTA not included with every Linux distro? DJB's
license is (at best) wonky, to preserve his codebase & help alleviate
techsupport nightmares, and as it's not "Open Source" with fully
redistributable binaries, none of the linux vendors (except Gentoo, which
compiles stuff on the fly) will touch it.
http://www.qmail.org/ && http://cr.yp.to/qmail.html for more info.
Laterz,
Roger "Merch" Merchberger
[1] If you have people sending you 2G Header lines, you have a lot bigger
problems than one crashed qmail-smtpd process...
--
Roger "Merch" Merchberger -- sysadmin, Iceberg Computers
zmerch(a)30below.com
What do you do when Life gives you lemons,
and you don't *like* lemonade?????????????
>Webmail prolly won't run well on your target hardware, but if go with
>something newer, there are several choices for qmail; and with an older
>version of ColdFusion (4.5) you could set up webmail no matter what MTA...
>This combo will run fine on a Pentium 133 (almost on topic...) -- and
>there's always www.mail2web.com as backup...
I can also run a 2nd machine to handle the actual web mail processing if
need be. And web mail isn't a deal breaker anyway. I just happen to have
two or three users that keep asking me about it, so I figured as long as
I'm upgrading, now would be a good time to try to add it.
>If you want "It's gotta support the latest, kewlest schtuff" qmail isn't
>for you
I don't care about the latest bells and whistles per se... however, since
my goal is to reject known spam and viri, that ebs into the relm. But, it
sounds like you are having no problems on that end of things anyway.
In fact, like you point out, since I want to run on old hardware, I may
be better off going with something that isn't going to expect me to
constantly add to it... that way once it is running, I can just leave it
running and not have to worry about regular updates (probably the single
biggest reason why I won't run Windows based internet servers... they
expect you to do updates too often, I don't have the time/desire to jerk
around with that).
>I was supporting 2500 mailboxen on a Cyrix 6x86 w/single 4.5M Micropolis
>SCSI HD - if it weren't for spam & viruses, we might still be running that
>ol' box... :-O
I'm not looking at anywhere NEAR that number of boxes. I'm looking at
around 50 spread among a dozen domains (most of the domains are Unified
accounts anyway, so one box covers all possible addresses for the
domain). The server only gets in the range of 2000 messages a day (most
being to me anyway). So it is a fairly light duty server.
>I haven't run Sendmail in aeons;
I've heard enough horror stories about Sendmail to know that I probably
don't want to use it. From what I gather, its great, IF you know how to
use it... but if you are new to it, be prepared to move the sacrificial
lambs off the SCSI god alter and onto the Sendmail god alter.
(Ironically, Sendmail is the only *nix mailer I have used already... I'm
running it on both my web servers for handling emails created by web
forms... but I didn't really have to do much to get it up and running,
just a little tweaking to lock it down from the outside)
>Anyway, that's my story, and if you want any (kinda ;-) unbiased info about
>qmail, feel free to ask away. I'd be more than happy to help!
Thanks
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
Isn't that where term 'board swappers' comes from?
When I was looking for a job in Vancouver, B.C., back in 1976, I was told
that Digital's (DEC) recently enacted policy was not to train service
personel, they just sent them to customer site and serviceman was on his
own. Rational was that few months after they finish training, CDC would hire
them out.
A year after that, I have seen one of those Digital servicemen trying to fix
a PDP11 and that cofirmed the rumour.
A new resource :
http://www.citem.org/Patents/Computers
The US Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO) maintains a giant database
of patents dating back to the early 1800's. Patents issued after 1975
are stored as full text and are searchable. All earlier patents are
available only as TIFF images and can be recovered only by knowing
the patent number or by an arduous search system based on an unobvious
(hence patentable ?) classification system.
The data in these early patents is of immense interest to anyone interested
in early computer history and I took it upon myself to begin indexing
the computer related patents. My index currently holds 880 listings and
many names familiar to the computer history buff can be found; though many
remain to be discovered.
There is a mass of fascinating documents to browse through. I have seen
patents running to almost 1000 pages (check out patent number 3400371
issued exactly 40 years ago today)
The complete index is downloaded as a single HTML page and I use JavaScript
to provide searching, sorting and statistical functions. For those who
cannot, or do not want to, enable Javascript, I will be implementing those
features as PHP code in the near future.
I will also set up a discussion forum so that as you discover interesting
bits you can transmit them on to others. Many patents relate directly to
actual commercial machines (see the one listed above) but rarely name those
machines. It will be useful to know the relationship between patents and
actual systems.
As always your comments, suggestions and help are welcome.
Best regards,
-- HansP
>I still think we should make it legal to hunt spammers down with shotguns
>(or RPGs for that matter). Maybe we can have Spam Season, open from July
>1 through June 30 of the following year.
>
>Be vewy vewy quiet. I'm hunting Spammas!
I do like AOL's recent giveaway. They are giving away the BMW that
belongs to a spammer that just successfully sued. They are doing a random
drawing of all AOL members, someone gets the car. I guess if it isn't
legal to post his head on a spike in front of AOL headquarters as a
warning to all other spammers, giving away his car is the next best thing?
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
>From: "Vintage Computer Festival" <vcf(a)siconic.com>
>
>On Wed, 7 Apr 2004, Tony Duell wrote:
>
>> One thing puzzles me. What's so significant about 40 years?
>>
>> Why wasn't there a similar message on this list 8 years ago, saying
that
>> the 360 was 32 years old -- a nice round number ?
>
>Because 8 years ago this hobby was at a level that is a small fraction
of
>its current state. Way more people are cognizant today of the
importance
>of celebrating computer history than 8 years ago.
>
>--
>
>Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer
Hi Sellam
You missed the point, 40 is base 10, 32 is base 2.
Dwight
This is actually off topic, but I can bring it on topic if I do this
right (see further on).
My mail server's hard drive has developed bad blocks. I could fix it, or
I could take this as the sign that I need to get off my butt and move to
a more advanced product. I'm currently running SIMS on an old Mac (eh eh,
on topic!). But it lacks a key feature that I want... content filtering
so I can block certain kinds of email.
What do others recommend as a decent mail server that can handle content
filtering, multiple domains, POP access, and is free or darn near it. And
for the on topic nudge, I would like to be able to run it either on an
old Mac (probably not possible), or on mac68k NetBSD (so I can still use
my old Macs). Although I am not hard core on platform or OS, that's just
a "I'd like" option.
A web mail component would also be a nice thing if available.
I'm looking into Postfix or qmail, but I've only just started the
research, so I figured I'd see what others are using or recommend.
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
A nice lady in Spokane, Washington has a nice IBM System/32 (working) with
complete reference manual library and software that she would like to go
to a good home.
If interested, please contact me and I'll put you in touch with said nice
lady.
--
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>From: "der Mouse" <mouse(a)rodents.montreal.qc.ca>
>
>> A disassembler includes comments, selecting data types, labeling
>> branching and entry points and statistical cross referencing (
>> usually as comments in code ). This is often an interactive process.
>
>Try the disassembler I posted a link to a bit earlier today. (To save
>bother: ftp.rodents.montreal.qc.ca:/mouse/disas/src/.)
>
>It's pretty close to a disassembler in this sense. (It doesn't do
>"statistical cross referencing", whatever that is, but a text-save plus
>a little sed/awk groveling could probably get it.) I wrote it
>specifically to help people figure out what binaries of unknown
>provenance were *really* doing.
Hi
When trying to figure is an entry lable in code is a
main routine of just part of a conditional structure, it is
nice to know how many time that location was references.
If space permits, knowing the addresses that reference that
location can help a lot as well. "statistical cross referencing"
simply means keeping counts of the number of time a locating
is referenced.
Dwight
Hi Ben
I ment a even power of 2. sorry for the confusion. The
post about the packed decimal is actually quite correct.
Most banks don't like binary and the really don't like
floating point binary.
Dwight
>From: "ben franchuk" <bfranchuk(a)jetnet.ab.ca>
>Vintage Computer Festival wrote:
>
>> Er, I think (or at least interpreted) Tony's point to be why we are
>> celebrating this now at 40 (i.e. base 10) when 32 (base 2) is so much
>> nerdier?
>
>How the heck do you get 32 from base 2?
>Ben.
>
>
>My setup with postfix, amavisd-new, and spamassassin works great. I run it
>under Linux Fedora Core 1. I'm not sure if you can get it to work under
>NetBSD or not.
I don't have to stay with NetBSD, I just have a little more experience
with it then with Linux or any other *nix. But generally, I learn more of
an OS when I find a reason to use it (I only learned NetBSD because I had
to replace Quid Pro Quo as my web server, and decided to go with
Apache... and Dave on this list had previously peaked my interest in
NetBSD on old Macs... since Apache ran on it, that was all the excuse I
needed... if I need to learn a new OS to run a mail server that will fit
my needs, then I will do so).
Although I know Postfix is available for mac68k NetBSD... I just don't
know about amavisd or spamassassin... but I would think as long as it
works with any version of NetBSD, and I can get the source, I should be
able to compile it for mac68k.
Thanks!
-chris
<http://www.mythtech.net>
> > A nice lady in Spokane, Washington has a nice IBM System/32 (working)
>with
> > complete reference manual library and software that she would like to go
> > to a good home.
> >
> > If interested, please contact me and I'll put you in touch with said
>nice
> > lady.
>
>That is a pretty rare machine. Someone get it.
I'm on it, it will be saved. I'll have to have it shipped - Spokane is
within easy range for me (NY) to drive and pick up a /360, but just a little
too far for a /32 :-)
Wierd this just showed up - I just picked up a System/32 from Canada last
week, in *very* different condition... beware the possums! -
http://www.corestore.org/32.htm
William, perhaps we should do a joint 'Corestore - Federal Signal &
Ironworks' IBM Midrange exhibit for VCF-East? You bring the S/3, I'll bring
S/32, S/34, S/36, and S/38?
I warned Sellam to reinforce the floors ;-)
Mike
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This looks like exactly what I'm looking for! Thanks for the pointer.
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-bounces(a)classiccmp.org
[mailto:cctalk-bounces@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Teo Zenios
Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2004 2:52 AM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts
Subject: Re: Search engines for networks?
----- Original Message -----
From: "Cini, Richard" <RCini(a)congressfinancial.com>
To: "'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'"
<cctalk(a)classiccmp.org>
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 3:10 PM
Subject: RE: Search engines for networks?
> Alex:
>
> I actually thought of this but since the price is quoted as "contact
> a sales representative" I felt it would cost more than "free".
>
> This is a home network where I collect all of my stuff. 650
> directories and about 9,000 files in 17gb, not including my MP3 archive
> which is another 13gb. I know this only because I just moved it to another
> server (ProLiant 1600, dual P-III/550 and 91gb RAID5 running NT Server and
> sitting in an old DEC 42U rack). Probably overkill but the price was
right.
>
> Don't laugh...I collect a lot of crap. There's also some good stuff
> in there, too. I've imaged my entire collection of PC floppy disks and I'm
> working on system ROMs. Anyone need PC Tools 7?? How about the True Type
> Font Pack for Windows 3.1? QEMM? How about Windows 1.0?
>
> I also have tons of utilities, MAME stuff, instruction manuals, a
> mirror of my Web site, the SourceSafe database for my projects.
>
> Problem is that I can't find certain things when I need to.
>
> Rich
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: cctalk-bounces(a)classiccmp.org
> [mailto:cctalk-bounces@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of meltie
> Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 2:05 PM
> To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts; Paul Berger
> Subject: Re: Search engines for networks?
There is a nice little program call whereisit that does the following:
PROGRAM HIGHLIGHTS
==================
Suitable for beginners and advanced users
-----------------------------------------
Very adjustable program with many options for power users, as well as easy
to use with default settings and Quick-Setup Wizard for all those who don't
want to get their hands dirty.
Explorer-like interface
-----------------------
Easy to use, familiar Explorer-like user interface with adjustable toolbar,
columns to choose between, and extensive use of object menus (right mouse
click). Full multi-language support is included for international users.
Wide media and file system support
----------------------------------
Where is it? supports any media type Windows can use, including diskettes,
CD-ROMs, removable disks like iomega Zip and Jaz, hard disks, network drives
etc. It will recognize by name and collect useful data for most of them,
too.
Also, it is compatible with all Windows-supported file systems, including
FAT,
FAT32, and NTFS.
Manageable catalog files
------------------------
Logical organization of databases, based on one or more catalogs. Each
catalog can easily be transferred as a single file to another computer, a
friend, a public forum... Small catalog-file size with optional
compression,
with approximate usage of 1 MB for 40.000 files and folders (that's about 6
fully filed CD-ROMs). Internal database structure optimized for very
efficient
access and small total size. Single-file, transferable catalog storage makes
sharing your data easy.
Fast access to item's properties
--------------------------------
Fast and easy access to every item's detailed properties, from wherever you
are. Want to get item's description? Just leave mouse pointer on it for a
moment, description will popup as a tool-tip!.
Detailed info with descriptions
-------------------------------
Detailed info on every object in the database (files, folders, disks,
catalogs...) each capable of accepting up to 32 KB characters of description
text, and a thumbnail image. Each file, folder, or disk can have assigned
one
or more user-defined, tree-ordered categories, up to 128 user flags, custom-
defined icon... Disks in catalogs can be grouped into disk groups, forming
a hierarchicaly organized, easy to browse and find collection.
Auto-importing descriptions and thumbnails
------------------------------------------
WhereIsIt offers a plugin system for importing descriptions and thumbnails
during media scan, allowing you to develop your own description plugins and
extend WhereIsIt's description importing capabilities. Included with the
program is a comprehensive collection of plugins, covering all widely used
description file formats, such as 4DOS/NDOS, FILE_ID.DIZ, FILES.BBS,
00INDEX.TXT... description files, and importing details about audio CDs,
WAV and MP3 audio files, Office documents, EXE files and system libraries,
fonts, HTML files, Adobe Acrobat PDF files, most graphic files etc. Also
included are thumbnail plugins, importing small, downsized images from most
graphic files in use today.
Internal support for many compressed file formats
-------------------------------------------------
Handling of most compressed file formats on media scan, including ZIP, ARJ,
RAR, CAB, LHA/LZH, TAR, ARC, ACE, ZOO, GZ, SFX... Compressed archive files
can be presented as folders, showing their content. Archive files can be
extracted right out from WhereIsIt? to any folder, and a file compressed
inside archive file can be viewed or launched with associated program with
one click!
Powerful searching finds what you need
--------------------------------------
Powerful multi-threaded searching, with detailed settings on what to search
for, where to search and how to search. Use either Quick Search to quickly
find your items by name or description, or start up the Advanced Search with
Search Expression Editor, allowing you to write complex search queries using
full set of available search criteria and Boolean logic operators.
Searching for duplicate items is there, too, as well as analyzing how data
has changed since last cataloging, or checking if older or newer versions of
files are present somewhere in the catalog.
Report generator with print preview for summarizing your catalogs
-----------------------------------------------------------------
Adjustable and powerful report generator adds a final professional touch to
your catalog collection. Export your data to ASCII file, Excel table, rich-
text document, HTML document, print on your printer, or send by fax using
the Microsoft Fax, after previewing it on full-screen, with adjustable zoom.
Script language for automated tasks
-----------------------------------
Professional version of WhereIsIt includes internal script language that
can help you automate tasks like unattended catalog updates.
... and many, many more!
If you have an idea on your own how to further improve this program, feel
free to send in your suggestions at "support(a)whereisit-soft.com".
It sounds like you want to catalog files you already have archived and want
to know what they are and where to find them, this should work for that.
Since the locations probably will not change allot its quite a bit faster to
search a database then have windows scan your complete network every time
you want to find one file.
Mark Firestone <pdp11_70(a)retrobbs.org> wrote:
> Using the Internet should require a license. You should have to be able to
> log into a Unix (or any other non PC-DOS/MS-DOS text based OS shell) and be
> able to check your email with a text based email program, and view a website
> with a text based browser, and log out again, or write a simple DCL script
> without the manual.
>
> This would eliminate all Internet congestion over night, and us geeks could
> have our toy back.
YES!!! Full agreement!
-MS, who is typing this on a VT320 logged into UNIX on a VAX and sending it with
the original Berkeley Mail program, and who does NOT own or have a PeeCee, has
NO graphics capability at all at the present, and has NO web access except with
Lynx.
And guess what, my Spartan setup is perfectly sufficient for my current project
of designing a new VAX chip! Nothing beats writing Verilog for a VAX CPU in vi
on a VT320.
To make room for other things I'm disposing of some Sinclair stuff - a
couple of running machines, and several that can be fixed easily enough.
Possibly good for someone who wants to start a collection?
Boxed ZX81 (issue 3 IIRC) - no PSU though and keyboard membrane needs
work.
Boxed 48K Spectrum, PSU, leads, manuals etc.
Boxed Spectrum+ - no PSU though and unresponsive keyboard.
Spectrum +2 (grey case) currently in pieces and rather unwell :)
Spectrum +2A (black case) and PSU
Spectrum +2A (black case) and PSU - keyboard unresponsive.
2 light guns
3 joysticks
Note the boxes aren't anything special... but they're there ;-)
I have a ton or two of tapes I can pass on, and I think there are
manuals for the +2 in the loft still. Possibly some other documentation
too. Oh, and I expect I can throw in a WHSmith tape recorder too ;)
Hopefully someone will just take everything on...
cheers
Jules
Hi guys,
I really want to experience using a real live PDP-11. Does anyone have
one for a reasonable(?) cost? I'd prefer a model that is shippable, and if
not, one that is close to me (Virginia).
Thanks!
--------
Thanks,
Torquil MacCorkle, III
Lexington, Virginia
You might try asking on comp.sys.tandy as well - they're big Z80 guys from
way back
KP
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Donoghue [mailto:jim@smithy.com]
Sent: Thursday, 8 April 2004 5:38 AM
To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: Z80 disassembler for Linux
I'm trying to find a Z80 disassembler for Linux. There are a bunch of
DOS ones out there, doesn't do me any good. A long time ago I had
downloaded one that was source and compiled it, but I can't remember
what it was. Anybody know of one?
Jim
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Alex:
I actually thought of this but since the price is quoted as "contact
a sales representative" I felt it would cost more than "free".
This is a home network where I collect all of my stuff. 650
directories and about 9,000 files in 17gb, not including my MP3 archive
which is another 13gb. I know this only because I just moved it to another
server (ProLiant 1600, dual P-III/550 and 91gb RAID5 running NT Server and
sitting in an old DEC 42U rack). Probably overkill but the price was right.
Don't laugh...I collect a lot of crap. There's also some good stuff
in there, too. I've imaged my entire collection of PC floppy disks and I'm
working on system ROMs. Anyone need PC Tools 7?? How about the True Type
Font Pack for Windows 3.1? QEMM? How about Windows 1.0?
I also have tons of utilities, MAME stuff, instruction manuals, a
mirror of my Web site, the SourceSafe database for my projects.
Problem is that I can't find certain things when I need to.
Rich
-----Original Message-----
From: cctalk-bounces(a)classiccmp.org
[mailto:cctalk-bounces@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of meltie
Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 2:05 PM
To: General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts; Paul Berger
Subject: Re: Search engines for networks?
On Wednesday 07 April 2004 18:21, Paul Berger wrote:
> On Tue, 2004-04-06 at 08:41, Cini, Richard wrote:
I'm quite surprised no-one's suggested Google's Search Appliance yet.
Google's indexing technology - in a rackmount box, for your intranet.
http://www.google.com/appliance/
alex/melt
Read an article in the local paper, Ottawa Citizen, about the
IBM 360 turning 40 today. Interesting read, they claim that
in today's dollars, the total effort cost something like
$30 BILLION :-)
The picture in the paper was interesting, because the front panel
is the exact same one that I have in the basement...
Cheers,
-RK
--
Robert Krten, PARSE Software Devices +1 613 599 8316.
Realtime Systems Architecture, Consulting, Books and Training at www.parse.com
Looking for Digital Equipment Corp. PDP-1 through PDP-15 minicomputers!
There's also an article in today's Durham (NC) Herald-Sun about the IBM/360 and the role of Fred Brooks, Jr., who is also credited with founding the Computer Science dept. at UNC-Chapel Hill.
The article is at: http://www.heraldsun.com/business/21-467479.html
Enjoy!
Alex K.
The Calculator Museum Web Page
http://www.calcmuseum.com
-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Krten <root(a)parse.com>
Sent: Apr 7, 2004 10:07 AM
To: cctech(a)classiccmp.org
Subject: IBM 360 turns 40 today
Read an article in the local paper, Ottawa Citizen, about the
IBM 360 turning 40 today. Interesting read, they claim that
in today's dollars, the total effort cost something like
$30 BILLION :-)
The picture in the paper was interesting, because the front panel
is the exact same one that I have in the basement...
Cheers,
-RK
--
Robert Krten, PARSE Software Devices +1 613 599 8316.
Realtime Systems Architecture, Consulting, Books and Training at www.parse.com
Looking for Digital Equipment Corp. PDP-1 through PDP-15 minicomputers!
Hello,
I've got a lead on a VAX 11/730 in Utah. Since I'm in
Maryland and am more interested in PDPs than VAXen
(unless you've got a MicroVAX you want to get rid of),
I'd like to have a DEC devotee closer to Utah save this
machine. Contact me off-list for the details if you can
get to northern Utah to pick this up.
Bonus points if someone has documentation on the
MINC-11, specifically the Dual Mux, A/D, D/A,
Digital Out, Digital In, and Clock cards. The owner of
the 11/730 is looking for this information.
Cheers,
Dan
www.decodesystems.com/wanted.html
Now that I have had a chance to "fondle" the IBM test box, it is time to
pass it on and let someone else fondle it :). It is now up for sale on
the Vintage Computer Marketplace.