- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by XNEDAF＠aol.com

Brad, Where were you able to find the TU 58 capstan rollers, I have four TU 58 drives, and they all need new capstan rollers. I would certainly appreciate any help or direction you can offer. Thanking you in advance for your help. Steve Faden xnedaf(a)aol.com

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Mac Plus with (minor) issues

by cb＠mythtech.net

Sounds like the barrel rectifier at position CR5 on the analog board is going bad. Tech book I have here says its a MR824 rectifier. I had to look up the position and the part number in a book I have (Dead Mac Scrolls), but I have done this repair on a few Mac Pluses (same analog board as the 128 and 512), and they had similar symptoms. They had the Chirping noise, as well as the right side of the screen would move in and out (which would appear that everything is shifted left like you describe). Notes from the book. Original rectifier is a GI854, R-SI, 600V, 3A... and they recommend replacing it with a MR824, R-SI, 400V, 5A to avoid having the problem come back. The rectifier is kind of top center of the analog board. The analog board from those Macs was notoriously flaky. Lots of under rated parts that burned out easily. Probably Apple worst power supplies. Ironically, the 2nd worst are the CRT iMacs that brought back that same style computer. And ironically, the iMacs are bad for the same reason, under rated components that burned out from normal use. You would think Apple would have been more careful the 2nd time around :-) BTW: While you are in there working on the analog board, check and possibly resolder joint J4 on the main cable on the center of the board. Its pin 1 on the cable. That joint was bad on I think EVERY Mac Plus I worked on. So there is a pretty good bet that even if you aren't having problems with yours now, you will in the future. The solder would split off the board causing the cable to lose connection, causing the video to blink out. Smacking the side of the case would cause it to restore temporarily... its the only time I've had a computer company give me an official "repair" of "whack the side of the case" =:-O -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Mac Plus with (minor) issues

by mtapley＠swri.edu

All, Two separate (?) issues with my Mac Plus. 1) Screen display is too far to the left. 2) System seems *very* sensitive to voltage setting. What I've got: Mac Plus (upgraded from 512k), original mouse/KB Brainstorm 16MHz 68000 upgrade Kensington System Saver Mac (switch, fan, and surge protector, mounts on top of system). La Cie external SCSI hard drive, 230 MBytes Analog (Radio Shack, automatically suspect) VOM. Mac OS 6.0.8, 7.0.1, 7.1 (chosen by System Picker utility) all on HD Screen Display issue: Everything (all pixels) is shifted uniformly to the left about 5 mm. I found the "width" setting on the analog board (well duh, read the label on the cardboard shield) and fooled with it (system on, plastic tool). Works fine, image gets narrower and wider. I can set it narrow enough that pixels are all on the phosphor, so the system is usable - but it's aesthetically slightly annoying to have everything to the left of where I expect it. I could not find a setting to shift left/right. Problem is present either with or without the Brainstorm installed, so I don't think it's related to that. I *think* the problem first appeared when I took out the "Elf Armor" mu-metal ELF shield that I got back when that was hot psuedo-science, my wife used the machine a lot, and we were expecting our first child (see the connection? :-) ). Significance of that is I had to unplug the cable >from the back of the CRT, so might I have knocked something askew? Voltage sensitivity: System started occasionally resetting itself. Opened it up, stuck the VOM on ground (frame) and 5 V (using the pin in the middle of the Analog -> Digital board connector, at the digital board) and found it reading a *little* (maybe 0.05 V?) shy of 5 V. OK, (duh, read the label on the cardboard analog board shield again) set the voltage higher, with system running. I can set it quite a bit higher, up to around 5.1 V. System keeps running. However, when I power-cycle at that setting, it goes into an endless loop of "chirp, chirp, chirp..." and the VOM stays near 0 V (wiggling at each chirp). I assume that means there's an overshoot on 5V coming up which triggers the crowbar, which sets up for a repeat. Q1) Is that supposed to work that way? I'd expected the 5V rise to be critically damped or better, so no overshoot. In other words, I'd expect if it'll continue to run at a given Voltage setting, it'll start at that setting. Have I got a latent problem forming? OK, sooo... set the Voltage back down some, try the "reset" button.. (repeat a few times) ... "Bong" ... starts up nicely ... runs a while and then freezes. (Here and below, "freezes" means some sort of bad instruction. Could result in lock-up, could mean drop into MacsBug, unable to continue, could mean reset.) This behaviour is not present unless the Brainstorm is installed (at least not obviously. It could be true but with a longer time constant between freezes). Sigh. So try setting Voltage barely higher. Works, but freezes *sooner*. Hmmm. Voltage lower. Works better. Voltage lower. Finally found a setting very slightly below 5V, (mmmm..maybe 4.98 V?? But remember the instrument I'm reading from here...probably about 1 significant figure) where it seems to run indefinitely ('til bedtime, anyhow). Q2) I thought that all digital stuff basically ran better until it over-voltaged - which the crowbar was supposed to prevent. So I'm surprised to see freezes/crashes at *higher* voltages (but still low enough to avoid the start-up overshoot) but see them less frequently at lower voltages. Q3) I assume there is a minimum voltage at which I'll also start to see freezes/lockups. True? Am I better off hunting for the lowest possible voltage, or try to find a "happy medium"? Q4) Have I got some incipient problem (dying isolation cap?) that is closing my window of working voltages? Warning: I'm on digest mode, the system is at home and I'm usually at work while accessing email, so my response time is likely to be ~24 hours for anything that requires tests/measurements. And then there's the kids' YMCA soccer (football) league .... TIA and no urgency, as the system appears to be running at the moment (raps forehead soundly) 'Knock on wood'. Kids are getting hooked on "Sim City" while I'm at work. But the Brainstorm may cure that...Sim City appears to run twice as fast with the 16MHz upgrade as it did with just the original 8MHz processor. Which reminds me: The Brainstorm is on a little daughterboard with 2 other IC's. The daughterboard plugs into a socket which is installed piggyback atop the original 8MHz 68000. There is also a flying resistor that solders to one leg of another component a short way away on the motherboard. If I pull the Brainstorm daughterboard off, and desolder the resistor lead, the system works just as before, with the 8 MHz CPU. If I plug the Brainstorm into the socket and connect the resistor, the system runs (see above, sometimes) at 16MHz (apparently). (FWIW, there are a couple of other modifications to the motherboard. I *think* they are just IC replacements.) I *think* this means that when the Brainstorm is plugged in, both 8MHz and 16MHz processers are running simultaneously. Bonus Q5) Is that right? Isn't that a recipe for thermal and electrical disaster? (I guess not, it runs, but....) -- - Mark 210-522-6025, page 888-733-0967

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TOA Manual..

by jeklopf＠COCACOLAOZARKS.COM

Chris, I was just looking through the net looking for a manual for a TOA A-912 and saw you had one in 2002. You had posted a message indicating it was up for grabs. I was wondering if you still had it or a copy. We have one at our company and no manual. We are changing phone systems and have no idea how thw A912 interfaces with the phone system we have now. Any info is appreciated... John E. Klopfenstein Network Administrator Ozarks Coca-Cola/Dr Pepper Bottling Co. 417-865-9900 ext 355 jeklopf(a)cocacolaozarks.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------- FIGHT BACK AGAINST SPAM! Download Spam Inspector, the Award Winning Anti-Spam Filter http://mail.giantcompany.com

21 years, 11 months

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Monitor/Video Cable Information for HP9000/300 needed

by bernd＠kopriva.de

Hi, i got a small lot of HP9000 stuff, including amongst other things a HP9133 (that's the reason, why i took it), and a HP 9000/300 and a HP35731A monitor. The HP9000 has a HP98456A included. Unfortunately, there was no cable included. What cable do i need for either the builtin video adapter or the HP98456A ? Can a HP35741A monitor be used too ? Thanks Bernd

21 years, 11 months

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tu58 - reading off end of reel?

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Jay West" <jwest(a)classiccmp.org> > >Speaking of which.... > >I have two TU58 drives, both have a bad set of rollers. One is built into >the 11/44 cabinet, one is a standalone desktop version. I decided to follow >the "tygon tubing solution", but haven't actually done it yet. I have two >questions: > >1) What is the best way to cut the tubing to get nice clean round edges? I >tried to make a slice, but the tube gets bent/flattened due to the pressing >down of the blade so the resulting cut is "oval". Some kind of hot >wire/knife maybe? Gently sawing would leave jagged edges... ideas? Hi Try rolling it with a blade. Don't try to cut all the way though on each pass, just cut a little deeper. > >2) The old gummy roller comes off, but there is still some gunk left on the >metal capstan center. I could put the tube over this, but it may slip a bit >perhaps. Is there a good way to get the final remaining goo off the capstan? >I'm afraid to scrub it or anything for fear of damaging the tachometer hub. > Clean it off! Try various solvents. Dwight >Oh, and also, anyone have a good source for blank media for the TU58? > >Thanks! > >Jay West > >--- >[This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus] > >

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cctalk Digest, Vol 8, Issue 56

by mtapley＠swri.edu

At 12:00 -0500 4/29/04, Teo Zenios wrote: >I can toss the card onto my scanner and get a jpg of it (matrox card). I >never seen one until it came up for sale on ebay, trying to find some vram >to max it out at 4mb. I have forgotten, did we ever have a discussion about whether scanners/photocopiers/etc. have enough UV content in their lights to erase UV-EPROMs, if the sticker has come off? I sort-of recall we did, but don't remember the outcome. -- - Mark 210-522-6025, page 888-733-0967

21 years, 11 months

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More DEC equipment spotted in Kansas City

by mmcfadden＠cmh.edu

If anybody is interested Surplus Exchange as multiple racks labeled VAX 6000-610 VAX 6000-410 Multiple 9-track tape drives One labeled TU58 They came from local engineering firm. Contact is Dave at Surplus Exchange. I can privately email you a phone number if you want to contact him. Mike

21 years, 11 months

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FW: DEC VAX 785 and PDP11/70's in Kansas City

by mmcfadden＠cmh.edu

Update: I'm going over Monday morning and examining all of the systems and I will attempt to make a list and post it. I have to sign a donation letter otherwise the systems are mine. Mike >Subject: DEC VAX 785 and PDP11/70's in Kansas City >I just got word from a friend that a company in Kansas City is planning to >dispose of the following. > >DEC VAX 785 in three 6' cabinets >DEC PDP 11/70 in ten 6' cabinets, this may be two computers >4 RM03 disk drives >2 TU80 tape drives >Other disks for VAX >That is what they remembered without actually having a list. > >I'm trying to set up a time to actually see them. > >Here is the other information I have received. > >There is a company from Topeka that will take them away if they are paid to >remove them. > >The 785 was running 3 months ago when they erased all of the media. >It has been about a year since the 11/70's were on. > >They are not currently running. > >They are checking on the legal requirements that they may have to go through >to dispose of these units. >They are worried about making sure they aren't legally libel if somebody >dumps them improperly. > >Whoever takes them away may have to be a GE approved vender. > >I'll keep everybody informed. > >Thanks >Mike

21 years, 11 months

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Need original Windows 3.0 install disks

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

I have a copy on HD 5.25 disks with Z-NIX company logo on them. I've got 5 disks for the set and look unused. Is there still a need for them?

21 years, 11 months

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FA: Apple IIe System, C64, 1541

by patrick＠VintageComputerMarketplace.com

If anyone is interested, I just posted the following on VCM: * Apple IIe Enhanced, 64K, two Disk II drives, one Unidisk 5.25" drive, one Unidisk 3.5" drive, ProDOS, three disk controllers, three Super Serial cards, one parallel interface card w/cable, and AppleColor Composite Monitor. * Commodore C64 in original carton, power supply, manual, composite video cable and switchbox. * Commodore 1541 disk drive with Zork I, II, III, Pinball Construction Set, more.

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Re. HP64000, aka offering help to duplicate HP64K disquettes

by terry＠beam.ltd.uk

Hi, I noticed a post you made some time ago about recovering files from old HP64000 5.25inch floppy disks. I have the same problem, some old HP64000 floppies which I would like to get the contents off. I would be gratefull for any information on the HP64000 disk format and any tools you found to do this. Cheers Terry -- Dr Terry Barnaby BEAM Ltd Phone: +44 1454 324512 Northavon Business Center, Dean Rd Fax: +44 1454 313172 Yate, Bristol, BS37 5NH, UK Email: terry(a)beam.ltd.uk Web: www.beam.ltd.uk BEAM for: Visually Impaired X-Terminals, Parallel Processing, Software "Tandems are twice the fun !"

21 years, 11 months

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6809 (was: Anybody ever use Aztec C for APPLEII?)

by dave04a＠dunfield.com

>> I'm not as familiar with the 6809 as I am with the 6502... what differences >> in architecture make it better? Larger stack frame? More (and larger) >> registers? > It also supports more addressing modes than the 6502 like position >independant (indexed off PC) and indirect addressing (in C, this would be >dereferencing a pointer). It also has a fairly orthogonal instruction set >which also helps in compiler writing (in my opinion). Of all the 8bit CPUs, >this happens to be my favorite. One of the biggest advantages of the 6809 to a compiler is the fact that it does all kinds of stack relative addressing. The 6502 can't even push/pop all of it's registers let alone perform relative or indirect stack addressing with them... This ability makes it very easy to deal with C's stack based local variables. For example, you can access memory on the stack (or through any index register) with a 0, 5, 8 or 16 bit offset, and you can use an 8 or 16 bit accumulator to calculate an offset. You can also perform indirect operations using stack based pointers, all in a single instruction. Plus, all index and stack registers on the 09 are 16 bits. The 6502's 8-bit index registers are somewhat at odds with C's notion that a pointer can point 'anywhere'. So, on the 6502, you end up using zero page 16 bit "registers" a lot, and these involve more overhead to manipulate. The 6809 is also my favorite 8-bitter (perhaps that's why there's 6 CoCo's in my collecion). The very first edition of my C compiler was targeted to the 6809. At one point I even designed my own portable 6809 computer (hardware and software), you can see it (and even try it out with a simulator) at my "old computers" page: http://www.parse.com/~ddunfield/museum/index.html Look for entry called "D6809". In addition to the OS, the system has a "bunch" of utilities, several editors, an assembler and a simple implementation of APL. there's even an 8080 emulator which allowed me to easily bring over code from my Altair which was my main computing platform prior to this one. It's disappointing that the 6809 never received as much acceptance or use as it should have. It was truly in a class by itself. Motorola documents show two circles, one containing the words "8-bit" and one containing the words "16-bit". A third circle, linking the other two contains the word "M6809", and this is a good description of the part. It was an 8-bit CPU with a great deal of 16 bit capability. Btw, I have scanned the "Motorola M6809-M6809E Microprocessor Programming Manual" and a fair bit of other 6809 reference material, which is all available on my site. Regards, -- dave04a (at) Dave Dunfield dunfield (dot) Firmware development services & tools: www.dunfield.com com Vintage computing equipment collector. http://www.parse.com/~ddunfield/museum/index.html

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Help with ID for Digital cable

by jrkeys＠concentric.net

Does anyone know what this cable is used for? digital BC29H-2E, Rev-B01, 47746 are the numbers on it. Thanks

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Need original Windows 3.0 install disks

by msokolov＠ivan.Harhan.ORG

Vintage Computer Festival <vcf(a)siconic.com> wrote: > Has anyone got the original Windows 3.0 install disks? I have 13 complete sets, each set being 7 3.5" DD (720 KB) floppies in a sealed cellophane bag. They are old and the welds that held the bags sealed weren't very strong, so some of them are coming apart, but they are basically "unopened". Seeing that there is interest, I'll try to find time to read them and put the images on my FTP site. For those who want the real original disks, rather than just images, since I have 13 sets, I'm willing to sell them except one. If interested, make an offer. MS

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More DEC boards available

by anheier＠owt.com

Thanks for all the interest in these boards, but they are all spoken for. I have more that I will be posting shortly. Thanks Norm

21 years, 11 months

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truckload of PDP stuff

by aek＠spies.com

That sounds a little harder, but I can't beleive that reverse-engineering the memory box -- not necessary. the drawings are at www.bitsavers.org/pdf/fabritek/400-0226-00_24kCore_jan74.pdf

21 years, 11 months

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Fastest VLB Video Card for Windows 3.11

by teoz＠neo.rr.com

A while ago I put together a 486/66 system to play around with all my windows 3.1 apps I have used in the past. I was wondering what the fastest VLB video card ever made for windows 3.1x was. I remember Diamond bragging about its Viper cards back in the day being the best, but who knows. Google has allot of information about what the best DOS gaming card was, but not that much on windows 3.1 (which is what I am interested in). Also what's the best video intensive benchmarking app to test out cards with? I have the following cards (and others but they are slower): Diamond Viper VLB 1mb VRAM Diamond Viper VLB 2mb VRAM (while both have the P9000 chip for windows acceleration they have 2 different chips for vga) Diamond Video 3000 (Stealth 64 Video Vram VLB) 4mb (S3 968 Chipset) Diamond Speedstar pro VLB 1mb DRAM Hercules graphite 1mb VRAM (IIT chipset) Matrox Plus 2mb VLB (early matrox chip and a very long card that has space for another 2mb vram) These cards are from the early 90's so it should be on-topic for the list.

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6809 (was: Anybody ever use Aztec C for APPLEII?)

by dave04a＠dunfield.com

At 23:59 28/04/2004 +0100, you wrote: >> case, an inadaquate keyboard (CoCo1) and artifically limiting system software (for >> example, the CoCo ROM's required DP to be "Page Zero" - and hogged most of it). > >But the ROM could be switched out and the machine run with a RAM-only >memory map. If you had any sense you booted OS-9 which did this and which >gave you a multi-tasking OS, the best I/O system I've ever come across, >and some very nice languages (a decent C, ISO level 0 PASCAL, and the >best BASIC I have ever used on a micro [1]). Yes, absolutely - and I did run OS/9 on my CoCo sometimes when it was an "in use" machine... however I do recall that when initially getting going with the machine "out of the box" it was frustrating to figure out why they had done some of the things they did - I guess the real problem is that the CoCo was designed "on the cheap" and did not have things like a real serial port, and relied on a lot of ROM software to make other devices work. It's funny - in a way you've made my argument for me - That you needed to run a completely separate third-party system in order to allow the CPU to be used anywhere near it's potential is pretty much the point I was making. Btw, I did not buy my first CoCo to run OS/9 - I wanted to put my own os (CUBIX) on it, and I found it required much more learning/understanding to get to the point where I could "take over" the machine than it did with other systems (Boot puts one sector >from disk-0 here, here's the disk controller, here are serial ports to talk to terminal - a bit of typeing and you are up and running...). Having the ability to make use of existing ROM code for the devices - at least initially - would have helped. All I'm saying is that this ROM heavy/limiting design was one factor (and only one in a larger list) that prevented the machine from widespread acceptance/third party support. This is consistant with the CoCo's design as a "cost is everything" home "appliance" console, not a serious business/scientific machine which is what the 6809 CPU was worthy of. And this is not necesarily a complaint - just an observation as to some of the reasons a decent machine with an outstanding CPU didn't do better than it did. Unfortunately it is the only common machine using the 09 that most people knew of, and this did not help to win 09 supporters. I believe SWTP made a nicer 6809 machine, however I never did get my hands on one :-( -- dave04a (at) Dave Dunfield dunfield (dot) Firmware development services & tools: www.dunfield.com com Vintage computing equipment collector. http://www.parse.com/~ddunfield/museum/index.html

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More 6809

by chad.martin＠fli-invent.com

Just to let you guys know, there were much larger 6809 systems. The 6809 was a great processor. I worked for many years on a 6809 system with 4Mb ram, scsi disk interface with hard drive and ms-dos 3.5 floppy, 68030 floating point co-processor. This was in use from about 1980 until 1992, when superceeded by the new system. The 6809 was retained for so long due to the software investment. Originally it had a custom disk interface to 5.25 floppy only, which was upgraded to scsi and ms-dos fat file format around 1988. It also originally had a smaller stack based floating point chip, but we needed faster float speed for coordinate calculations. So we upgraded to using the floating point co-processor that was used with the 68030. All of this and the memory managment was custom hardware. It started out being a couple of boards, but later was reduced to one board for all the cpu stuff. These systems also had several other 6809's in them. Originally the pattern rec vision system used one also. The material handling system, and motion control axis used the smaller 6805s in them. It was used on the Kulicke & Soffa wire bonders, used to manufacture computer chips, including Motorola of course. http://www.kns.com/prodserv/equipment/8060.asp Chad Martin

21 years, 11 months

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truckload of PDP stuff

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

Did anyone check on this and follow up (My previous post about a truckload of PDP parts & cpus). The guy apparently put it up on ebay? Jay

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specs for Canon MDD 210 disk drive?

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

I picked up two of these yesterday. I THINK they may be 80 TPI DD drives but I cant the spcs anywhere. Does anyone have the specs and/or the DIP switch settings for them? For some reason all the specs that I can find only go back to the model 221. Joe

21 years, 11 months

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Bernoulli 90meg disks available

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

I've 8 total, with backup data on them, but have no drive to read the disks. In good shape with their cardboard slipcovers. $1.17 each plus whatever it costs to ship. Prefer to sell the entire lot rather than individually.

21 years, 11 months

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Help ID/recovery of unknown word-processor files?

by cb＠mythtech.net

>That extension would most likely be ClarisWorks on a MAC Mac's don't use 3 letter extensions (well, not ClarisWorks era Macs at least)... but you are right, it is ClarisWorks... just for Windows (yes, amazingly, Apple wrote and sold Windows software) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

21 years, 11 months

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Help ID/recovery of unknown word-processor files?

by cb＠mythtech.net

>He's gone now, and so is the computer the files were typed on, and I >don't even know if it was CP/M, Mac, PC or what. They have extentions of >"CWK" and simple 8-char filenames. I know that's CP/M or DOS like, but >they may be exports. CWK was used by Claris Works on windows I can open and translate those to another program if you would like (MS Word perhaps?). I may also have an old copy of Claris Works for windows I can send you if you'd like to try to work on them directly (probably Win 3.x, maybe Win 95) I just tested your test file and was successful in translating it to MS Word. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Help ID/recovery of unknown word-processor files?

by Sharp51482＠aol.com

CWK That extension would most likely be ClarisWorks on a MAC, and any new version of AppleWorks should open it. Thanks, Blu

21 years, 11 months

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Help ID/recovery of unknown word-processor files?

by tomj＠wps.com

My brother interviewed two women who drove across the U.S. by themselves back in 1920-something (a substantial feat, if you know anything about U.S. culture then or 1920's roads and automobiles), published a little 500-copy book of it. It's long since disappeared, and never got the attention it deserved. I want to put it on the web. He's gone now, and so is the computer the files were typed on, and I don't even know if it was CP/M, Mac, PC or what. They have extentions of "CWK" and simple 8-char filenames. I know that's CP/M or DOS like, but they may be exports. I want to convert them to something "portable" (sic) and eventually HTML. Luckily the images are all TIFFs, and load with GIMP with ignorable errors. There's 41 MB of CWK files, about 40 of them. Any suggestions? A sample file is at http://wps.com/temp/A01.CWK List relevancy: they are > 10 years old and produced on a computer.

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TI-1500

by lmiller＠aero.org

In Nov of 2002 you asked about a TI-1500. I have a need to inspect one, and I'm wondering if you were able to find anyone with an operational system. Larry Miller The Aerospace Corporation 310-336-5597

21 years, 11 months

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looking for SC Assembler for the Apple II

by paulrsm＠buckeye-express.com

For SC software, please see: http://www.stjarnhimlen.se/apple2/dsk.html -- Paul Monroe, Michigan USA

21 years, 11 months

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still looking for... (DEC)

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

Looking for a pair of 64kw memory boards for an 11/45. Anyone have some to trade? Jay

21 years, 11 months

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Mac Iifx Update

by sml49＠comcast.net

>> I would take everything out, memory, drives etc., use a known >> good apple brand mouse and keyboard and see if some minimum >> system doesn't get some kind of response. ADB, SCSI, and >> memory can all look like this IIRC. > > I thought the fx required memory to be present to boot? So far my minimal > system has been system ROM/memory/known good kb/rodent but I still don't get > +5V on the ADB cable to the keyboard or anywhere on the motherboard > connector.....it's looking very dead-PSU-ish now. > I had a somewhat similar experience with a Iici - there's something touchy about the portion of the power supply circuitry that trickles a milliamp or so of +5 to the logic board to enable startup. Also - does the fx PSU have one of those push-and-lock-in power switches on the back? Iici's do and sometimes fiddling with that will have a beneficial effect. Worth a try. Seth Lewin

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Old software available

by SUPRDAVE＠aol.com

Here's a list of stuff to give away. Pay for shipping and whatever else you feel if it's worth something to you. (if anything) Turbo C++ 3.0 5 disks HP laserjet print system 10 disks IDEA assoc. idealink 5251+ 7 720k disks ibid business series 6 disks Kruse Control 1.2 6 disks PC anywhere IV/LAN 4.03 2 720k disks Norton PC anywhere 2.0 2 disks (2 copies) Interbase 4.2 for NT 4 disk set (2 copies) R&R report writer for paradox 4.1 paradox for DOS 4.5 2 disks paradox for DOS 4.5 runtime 2 disks paradox for Windows 1.0 4 disks paradox 4.0 2 disk set (4 copies) paradox 3.5 8 disk set 720k REXX for DOS 3.0 summasketch II plus 2 disks sage proedit for DOS 1.1 2 disks win95 upgrade 13 disks Win 3.1 6 disks powerpoint 4.0 10 disks winword 2.0 6 disks MSDOS 6.21 3 disks MS quick C compiler 5 720k disks Borland C++ builder for 95 and NT on CD (6 copies) Coreldraw 4 15 5.25 disks I've got more stuff like this once I sort through it all.

21 years, 11 months

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Weird items on VCM

by vcf＠siconic.com

Someone just posted some odd items on the VCM. Anyone have any information on the MIT "Dumbkoff 1"? http://marketplace.vintage.org/view.cfm?ad=608 >From the same seller, a Remington-Rand Selectron 256 bit Memory Tube: http://marketplace.vintage.org/view.cfm?ad=607 -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

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Sun-3 hardware available, Bristol UK

by Steve＠OceanRobots.net

Hi John, Looking for a Sun 3 hardware manual for research project. I'm in US; would have it picked up by courier. I send gift certificate or something cool from Boston, US in appreciation. Thanks, Steve

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Wang Dumb Term +other Stuff on eBay

by jpl15＠panix.com

A bunch of Daisy wheels - scads of manuals, etc, plus this ADM-ish Wang badged terminal - going cheap, no bids, 2 days left: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=3666&item=3476824111… Cheerz John

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Anybody ever use Aztec C for APPLEII?

by mtapley＠swri.edu

At 2:58 -0500 4/28/04, (digest time), Ram wrote: >Or you can read it online at: > >http://web.archive.org/web/20030207005349/www.pseudorandom.org/kandr/kandr.… > >Cheers, well, I was able to read the table of contents, but not any of the chapter links I tried. I suspect there may be copyright issues. 'sok for me, I have both first and second editions. -- - Mark 210-522-6025, page 888-733-0967

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SCSI disk spin-down question

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

Not sure if this it OT or not! Anyone know if all SCSI disks support spin-down under software control? Is it a SCSI-1 and above thing, SCSI-2 and above, or something which is only implemented by some manufacturers? (Or maybe it only applies to modern disks with an SCA infterface even?) I'm just thinking about putting some more drives in the home fileserver - but it's noisy enough already, hence I'd like to be able to power-down disks I'm not using except for when I need them. Possibly even hooking into samba code to spin the disks down after x minutes of inactivity and only spin them back up when a data request comes in... As all my classic comp data will be on said drives I suppose that sort-of makes it on topic :-) cheers Jules

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DEC VR201-C monitor ?

by uban＠ubanproductions.com

Does anyone have a DEC VR201-C monitor that they would be willing to part with? --tnx --tom

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Does anyone have the Nov 1980 issue of "Electronic Design"?

by dickset＠amanda.spole.gov

In researching the INS8073 CPU, I ran across an ancient Usenet article that mentions that the 22-Nov-1980 issue of "Electronic Design" has an article that might be of interest. a) might anyone on the list have that particular magazine, and... b) would you be willing to scan the article? I can accept just about any format you might want to throw (TIFF, GIF, PS, PDF...) Thanks, -ethan -- Ethan Dicks, A-130-S Current South Pole Weather at 25-Apr-2004 10:00 Z South Pole Station PSC 468 Box 400 Temp -60.2 F (-51.3 C) Windchill -98.59 F (-72.59 C) APO AP 96598 Wind 9.30 kts Grid 000 Barometer 685.4 mb (10424. ft) Ethan.Dicks(a)amanda.spole.gov http://penguincentral.com/penguincentral.html

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Tapeless ADAM?

by cmurray＠eagle.ca

> Hi Ken I haven't seen one lately. Been an ADAMITE for some 20 yrs. and they were available as 'modified' by experimenters to use without printer power supply and with a 5 1/4" drive. A surprise to see this orphan mentioned anyplace! Cheers. Murray-- > > Date: Mon, 26 Apr 2004 11:53:31 -0500 > From: "Van Mersbergen, Ken" <KVanMersbergen(a)RandMcNally.com> > Subject: RE: Tapeless Adam ? > To: "'General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts'" > <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> > Message-ID: > <C5A6EC0F4B8BD4119AFE00D0B7B9EF44081893F7(a)rmcmail01.corp.randmcnally.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > eColeco sells it for $30 without tape drive, keyboard, printer or > controllers. > > R80 CPU with place for two Datadrive tape units to boot Tape Software and > SuperGames, and save or load files on blank Digital Datapack tapes. Play > Coleco Game Cartridges (virtually indestructible plastic plug-in software on > MicroChips) using Game Controllers (two 9 pin ports available). Separate > Game and Computer Reset Switches. Expandable console features three card > slots under the top access cover (internal Modem or serial card, Aux Dot > Matrix Printer Card, Expansion Memory Cards from 64K to 256K, and Hard Disk > Drive interface Cards), plus external card slot on the right end, and disk > drive port on the left end for a single cable connection to add a floppy > disk drive (320K to 1.44 Megabyte Capacity). Other connectors: RF (TV) > output, Monitor (Video) output, and combination Audio/Video output to a > composite input monitor or TV equipped with A/V inputs. 5% handling and > ground U.S.A. shipping is $14. 30 day warranty. # 182 LIMITED QUANTITIES > > They also sell stand alone power supplies for the ADAM console. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dave Dunfield [mailto:dave04a@dunfield.com] > Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 11:54 AM > To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org > Subject: RE: Tapeless Adam ? > > >>Found a Coleco Adam on the weekend. > >>It's a bit odd in that it has NO tape drives. It does not > >>look as if one was removed - there are filler plates in both > >>tape compartments which look original. > >>Anyone know if there were any variations of the Adam which were > >>sold without any tape units at all? > > >Doubtful, looks like someone just pulled the drive and replaced it with a > >"dummy" > > Thats kinda what I'm guessing, however it *looks* factory - no signs of > prying, scraping and other giveaways that tell you it was modified. > > >eColeco sells ADAM units like this as just a game console. > > Curious - are these "game consoles with a printer", or do they have some > other means of powering them (the Adam is powered by the printer). > > Regards, > -- > dave04a (at) Dave Dunfield > dunfield (dot) Firmware development services & tools: www.dunfield.com > com Vintage computing equipment collector. > http://www.parse.com/~ddunfield/museum/index.html > > ***************************************************************

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Anybody ever use Aztec C for APPLEII?

by RMeenaks＠OLF.COM

Or you can read it online at: http://web.archive.org/web/20030207005349/www.pseudorandom.org/kandr/kandr.h tml Cheers, Ram -----Original Message----- From: ard(a)p850ug1.demon.co.uk [mailto:ard@p850ug1.demon.co.uk] Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 5:20 PM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Anybody ever use Aztec C for APPLEII? If you want to learn C, install one of the free unices and run gcc. Oh, and buy K&R -- you'll be glad you did. I couldn't understand any of the 'learn C in 2 weeks' type of books, I thoguht C was well beyond me. Then I bought K&R and was writing simple programs the same afternoon. K&R is expensiver per page I guess (it's a thin book), but it's full of information, and it's logically set out. -tony (c) 2004 OpenLink Financial Copyright in this message and any attachments remains with us. It is confidential and may be legally privileged. If this message is not intended for you it must not be read, copied or used by you or disclosed to anyone else. Please advise the sender immediately if you have received this message in error. Although this message and any attachments are believed to be free of any virus or other defect that might affect any computer system into which it is received and opened, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that it is virus free and no responsibility is accepted by Open Link Financial, Inc. for any loss or damage in any way arising from its use.

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Stuff in Portland, OR

by healyzh＠aracnet.com

Is anyone in the Portland area interested in collecting a bunch of misc. computer (as well as probably some electronics) stuff? It's for local pickup only, and until I start digging it out, I don't know what all will be in there. Definitely PC realated stuff (PCI era), and at least a little Sun stuff. Probably some other cool stuff as well, especially if interest is expressed, or cash offered. If no one in the area is interested, it's probably going to get dumped on BadWill. The classic stuff really isn't in much danger at the moment, I just have to do something to free up some space (if someone interested in picking stuff up is interested in classic stuff as well, some of it's available). I'll probably be dumping the non-classic stuff this weekend if I haven't heard from anyone. Remember LOCAL PICKUP ONLY! Zane

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Anybody ever use Aztec C for APPLEII?

by paulrsm＠buckeye-express.com

Please see: http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctalk/2004-February/036938.html I have promised this to several folks but I have not yet found the 8086 compiler manual to scan. I am still going through my storage area. If anyone else wants a copy then please send me an email and I will put you on the list. -- Paul Monroe, Michigan USA paulrsm(a)buckeye-express.com

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Old software available

by RMeenaks＠OLF.COM

Here you go... http://www.chsoft.com/dv.html Cheers, Ram -----Original Message----- From: Bryan Pope [mailto:bpope@wordstock.com] Sent: Tuesday, April 27, 2004 2:15 PM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: Re: Old software available And thusly SUPRDAVE(a)aol.com spake: > > MSDOS 6.21 3 disks Is this the entire installation? Speaking of this, does anyone have or know where I can get a copy of QEMM? Cheers, Bryan (c) 2004 OpenLink Financial Copyright in this message and any attachments remains with us. It is confidential and may be legally privileged. If this message is not intended for you it must not be read, copied or used by you or disclosed to anyone else. Please advise the sender immediately if you have received this message in error. Although this message and any attachments are believed to be free of any virus or other defect that might affect any computer system into which it is received and opened, it is the responsibility of the recipient to ensure that it is virus free and no responsibility is accepted by Open Link Financial, Inc. for any loss or damage in any way arising from its use.

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DEC VAX 11/xxx wanted

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

My previous deal on a VAX 11/7xx fell through, so I'm back looking for one. I would really like to get an 11/750, but would settle for a 730. Anyone care to talk trade? Email me offlist if so! Most of my trading stock is HP gear, but I have some DEC gear too. Guess there is always cash if you want to go that route. Regards, Jay West --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus]

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Looking for MacIIfx internal SCSI terminator

by pechter＠ureach.com

Anyone know where I can find one? Bill -- Bill Pechter Systems Administrator uReach Technologies 732-335-5432 Office 877-661-2126 Fax 877-661-2126 uNumber

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looking for SC Assembler for the Apple II

by jwest＠classiccmp.org

I know there's other assemblers for the Apple II, but the "SC Assembler" is what I used to use, and what I still have a quick reference card for. So can anyone dump me a copy to DOS 3.3 floppy? Jay West --- [This E-mail scanned for viruses by Declude Virus]

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Sun stuff

by vcf＠siconic.com

Rich has some Sun stuff available. See below. Reply-to: <rsk(a)gsp.org> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Tue, 27 Apr 2004 08:32:13 -0400 From: Rich Kulawiec <rsk(a)gsp.org> To: Vintage Computer Festival <vcf(a)siconic.com> Subject: Re: WTB: Speaker box for Sparc Station 1 ($$$) On Mon, Dec 15, 2003 at 10:11:40AM -0800, Vintage Computer Festival wrote: > Hi Rich. > > Yes, please send a list. I'm pretty sure I'd be interested in another > audio dongle for the SparcStation 1 if indeed you do have some. Hiya. This took a while, because I had to do quite a bit of digging, and I'm still not done. - But I have a Sparc 1 audio dongle still in the original plastic bag -- plus a few other ones that have actually been used a bit. I thought that it was somewhere in the bottom of the pile, and I was right. (Imagine that!) - I also have a big pile of various SCSI cables that needs a home: these are ones that I used with my Sparc 2 and various external devices, and they're a mix of micro-SCSI (like the connector on the back of the Sparc), DB-50, and Centronics-style. There's at least: 3 DB-50 to Centronics, ~4 ft 4 DB-50 to DB-50, 2-3 ft 2 DB-50 to DB-50, 1 ft 2 DB-50 terminators 2 DB-50 to Sun micro-SCSI connectors, 3 ft 1 bizarre IBM double Centronics...you tell me, it's in the box plus: about 4 more Centronics-style cables I found yesterday - I have an SBus expansion box. It's a pizza-box the same size and shape as a Sparc 1/2, but designed to let me you plug in more cards. But: I don't have the connector/card for it. I have seen those offered around the 'net from time to time, but not for a while. - I have a Sun 911 enclosure. This is about twice the height of a 411, and it's designed to hold 4 SCSI disks. Caveat: while removing the disks >from it ('cause I was still using it) I noticed one loose wire on the big harness that connects everything. I don't know if it was (a) always loose and thus not a source of any problems or (b) I knocked it loose while pulling the disks. I'm just not inclined to mess with it. - I have a couple of AUI-to-10BaseT transceivers with attached cables: one end plugs into the AUI Ethernet port on a Sparc 1/2, the other end (about 10 feet or so) has a 10baseT plug. Handy, but I don't need them any more. Cost for any of this? Make me an offer that's at least enough to cover shipping. ;-) Really. If you can use it, and I can get it out of here without losing money on the deal, it's yours. (I'm going to be moving soon, so the less stuff I have to pack...) There's other stuff as well but I haven't made a real list yet: old SunOS distributions (at least three of the SunOS 4.1.3/4.1.4 era), Solaris distributions (2.5, 2.5.1, 2.6., 2.7, and a still-stealed 2.8), and so on. I'm making a list now and will send that too. ---Rsk -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

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still looking for... (DEC) +model #

by pds3＠ix.netcom.com

I have at least one. I am checking on the other one. Items i am looking for:\ DRV11-J MRV11-D KDJ11-AB MSV11-MB KXT11-AB RQZX1-M KE11-B DRV1W-SA IEQ11-M DRQ11 KDF11-AA M8017-AA MCV11 Codar CT101 Thank you, Shannon Hoskins pds3(a)ix.netcom.com -----Original Message----- From: Jay West <jwest(a)classiccmp.org> Sent: Apr 26, 2004 6:33 PM To: "General Discussion: On-Topic and Off-Topic Posts" <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Subject: Re: still looking for... (DEC) +model # Specifically, M7891-D so you don't have to look :) Jay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jay West" <jwest(a)classiccmp.org> To: <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> Sent: Monday, April 26, 2004 8:29 PM Subject: still looking for... (DEC) > Looking for a pair of 64kw memory boards for an 11/45. Anyone have some to > trade? > > Jay > > >

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Is there a scan of "Designing Computer & Digital Systems" by Digital Press available?

by dickset＠amanda.spole.gov

Does anyone have a PDF of "Designing Computer & Digital Systems", 1972? I have number of 30-year-old DEC handbooks, but not that one. -ethan -- Ethan Dicks, A-130-S Current South Pole Weather at 27-Apr-2004 13:10 Z South Pole Station PSC 468 Box 400 Temp -72.2 F (-57.9 C) Windchill -103.2 F (-75.2 C) APO AP 96598 Wind 7.4 kts Grid 069 Barometer 680.5 mb (10607. ft) Ethan.Dicks(a)amanda.spole.gov http://penguincentral.com/penguincentral.html

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