- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by woyciesjes＠sbcglobal.net

Located in New Haven, CT area - 06517. Pick up only. I don't want to break up either system. Make me an offer by 5/21/2004 DEC 3000/400 2 mice keyboard 17" color monitor (or is it 19?) CD-ROM 2 GB HDD 64 MB RAM Sun Ultra 1 1 optical mouse w/special pad 1 ball mouse 2 keyboards 17" color monitor external CD-ROM 2 1 GB HDDs maybe a 4 GB also... floppy disk 128 MB RAM Creator 3D video card -- --- Dave Woyciesjes --- ICQ# 905818

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OOPS! was: Re: Forward from the Computer Collector's List

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

I just found out that the original message from Brian came from his site at <http://www.geocities.com/computercollectors/index.htm> and not >from this list. So if my message appeared out of the blue then that's why. I expect that many of you are also on Brian's mail list. If you're not, you should consider joining (use the link above). Joe FYI I went over and visited Ed today and bought the o'scope. He has a nice old IBM PC XT if anyone is interested in one. He's the original owner and thinks that he still has the original reciepts, etc for it. He bought it WITHOUT a hard drive! It still has the two original HH floppy drives with the * on them. He's installed a hard card and a 3 1/2" floppy drive. It still has the original floppy drive controller in it. I think he has all or most of the other original cards for it. He has several different video cards for it including a Paradise CGA card that can drive a monochrome monitor. He has a Amber Amdek monitor for it and I think he also has a VGA monitor and video card for it. The machine is in very good condition. If anyone wants a good original IBM computer they should give him a call. Joe At 07:09 PM 5/10/04 -0400, Brain wrote: > >This came in today for anyone in the southeast US. Doesn't sound that >collectible but who knows. > >Brian > >>From: "Ed Elkes" <eelkes(a)cfl.rr.com> >>To: <antiquecomputers(a)hotmail.com> >>Subject: Lost enthusiasm >>Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 17:16:04 -0400 >> >> >>I never thought I'd say this, but I've lost my enthusiasm for keeping the >>old machines running. Original IBM PC-XT, Compaq 386-33, ALR Pentium-133. >>Just not in the mood, anymore, I guess. >> >>I'm looking for anyone who is looking for, not only these PC's, but scads >>of >>boards, SCSI controllers and drives, server cases, Netware manuals, RAM, >>etc. I've held on to enough parts to rebuild these machines several times, >>and now I would like to find someone who needs or can use them for their >>own >>hobby machines. These machines all ran on my Netware network, which also >>has gone away. >> >>I've placed a list of what I've sorted out, so far, on my Web page, so you >>can see what there is and see if you, or anyone you know, might be >>interested. The list will be updated as items have sold and more items >>have >>been added. I'm not through uncovering stuff. Everything is IBM PC-based, >>8 and 16 bit. I never followed Apple or the earlier kit brands, although I >>did have a few. >> >>The Web page is www.geocities.com/ed_9213. More detailed info for the >>above >>computers is listed there, as well as the miscellaneous items. Like, where >>would you still find an 8-bit multi I/O card with 2FD 1S 1P 1G & clock, or >>a >>B/W VGA monitor? How about PC DOS 2.1, or a hard drive controller that will >>handle 8 IDE drives at once? Just a sample. >> >>Thanks. >> >>Ed Elkes >>Lake Mary, Florida (Orlando Area) >>ed9213(a)cfl.rr.com >>

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AUI multiport?

by mouse＠Rodents.Montreal.QC.CA

I have a hazy memory saying that some time back, someone here on the list was looking for an AUI multiport transceiver (ie, a device that presents one host interface and several, usually 8, transceiver interfaces, thus allowing one "real" transceiver to serve multiple hosts). The memory says that I was going to send one I have and don't expect to ever use again to this person, but something intervened and I never sent it. If this sounds like you, drop me a note and I'll see if I can't get it sent off to you. /~\ The ASCII der Mouse \ / Ribbon Campaign X Against HTML mouse(a)rodents.montreal.qc.ca / \ Email! 7D C8 61 52 5D E7 2D 39 4E F1 31 3E E8 B3 27 4B

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Computer Estate

by Bogilady＠aol.com

Thanks for all the comments and suggestions. Sound like most of you do business with Sellam Ismail, Erik Klein or Bruce Lane. I will talk with the other family members this week and educate myself a bit. - - I am so glad I posted the message! Answers to your questions: Where in the Pacific NW? Dad's stuff is in a few locations in the Tri-Cities (Richland, Pasco, and Kennewick, WA). We are in the dry-desert side of the state. We are about 4 hours >from either Seattle or Portland, 2.5hrs from Spokane, and about 6hrs from Boise. US395 & I82 intersect here. Do I have a list of items? How much is ?overwhelming?? There is a 60x40 shop, a 40x20 shop, and a 4 bedroom house. I am unable to make a complete list, because of the ?mouse in a maze? environment. We shuffle sideways down the halls, and follow paths through the living and dining room. Two of the bedrooms are look-in, not step-in rooms. The garage ? well it is a very careful adventure, and only a quarter of the way ventured. Furniture consists of workbenches and shelves mostly. He collected, but rarely parted with anything. Wish I could have hooked him up with you guys a year ago. (Hindsight 20/20) He was very proud of some of his finds. He would have enjoyed the treasure hunt. Thanks Again. Cathy

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IDEA - Collector interest database

by evan947＠yahoo.com

Patrick R. wrote >>>> So, we're getting there, and we're listening. This week I bought an Apple Newton through the VCM. I noticed that the system automatically moved the unit from the seller's "my collection" list into my own list. That was pretty cool.

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Rockwell R6765 datasheet

by laland＠drillcon.no

Hi I see that you in October 2003 were looking for the Rockwell R6765 datasheet (Ref.: http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctech/2003-October/021129.html). If you by any means got hold of it, would there be a possibility that you could share it with me? Best Regards, Jens Laland Bryne, Norway I have been curious all my life, about things: something to play with, investigate or know more about. However, a challenging process is often better than firm results which tend to leave you in the void between lesser storage space and the constant urge for something new.

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Forward from the Computer Collector's List

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

FYI I went over and visited Ed today and bought the o'scope. He has a nice old IBM PC XT if anyone is interested in one. He's the original owner and thinks that he still has the original reciepts, etc for it. He bought it WITHOUT a hard drive! It still has the two original HH floppy drives with the * on them. He's installed a hard card and a 3 1/2" floppy drive. It still has the original floppy drive controller in it. I think he has all or most of the other original cards for it. He has several different video cards for it including a Paradise CGA card that can drive a monochrome monitor. He has a Amber Amdek monitor for it and I think he also has a VGA monitor and video card for it. The machine is in very good condition. If anyone wants a good original IBM computer they should give him a call. Joe At 07:09 PM 5/10/04 -0400, you wrote: > >This came in today for anyone in the southeast US. Doesn't sound that >collectible but who knows. > >Brian > >>From: "Ed Elkes" <eelkes(a)cfl.rr.com> >>To: <antiquecomputers(a)hotmail.com> >>Subject: Lost enthusiasm >>Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 17:16:04 -0400 >> >> >>I never thought I'd say this, but I've lost my enthusiasm for keeping the >>old machines running. Original IBM PC-XT, Compaq 386-33, ALR Pentium-133. >>Just not in the mood, anymore, I guess. >> >>I'm looking for anyone who is looking for, not only these PC's, but scads >>of >>boards, SCSI controllers and drives, server cases, Netware manuals, RAM, >>etc. I've held on to enough parts to rebuild these machines several times, >>and now I would like to find someone who needs or can use them for their >>own >>hobby machines. These machines all ran on my Netware network, which also >>has gone away. >> >>I've placed a list of what I've sorted out, so far, on my Web page, so you >>can see what there is and see if you, or anyone you know, might be >>interested. The list will be updated as items have sold and more items >>have >>been added. I'm not through uncovering stuff. Everything is IBM PC-based, >>8 and 16 bit. I never followed Apple or the earlier kit brands, although I >>did have a few. >> >>The Web page is www.geocities.com/ed_9213. More detailed info for the >>above >>computers is listed there, as well as the miscellaneous items. Like, where >>would you still find an 8-bit multi I/O card with 2FD 1S 1P 1G & clock, or >>a >>B/W VGA monitor? How about PC DOS 2.1, or a hard drive controller that will >>handle 8 IDE drives at once? Just a sample. >> >>Thanks. >> >>Ed Elkes >>Lake Mary, Florida (Orlando Area) >>ed9213(a)cfl.rr.com >>

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Rockwell R6765 datasheet

by dave04a＠dunfield.com

At 23:56 12/05/2004 +0100, you wrote: >> >> Hi >> >> I see that you in October 2003 were looking for the Rockwell R6765 >> datasheet (Ref.: > >Isn't this essentially the same thing as the NEC 765 or Intel 8227 floppy >controller? > >-tony Yes it is. The only real difference is that the Rockwell chip allows up to 255 step pulses when zeroing the head, while the Nec device will fail after 77. Means you may have to do it twice with the NEC device if you have 80 track drives). You can grab the 765 datasheet from my "parse.com" page (see below), it's available under the "Dunfield 6809" entry (I used it in the design of this machine). Regards, -- dave04a (at) Dave Dunfield dunfield (dot) Firmware development services & tools: www.dunfield.com com Vintage computing equipment collector. http://www.parse.com/~ddunfield/museum/index.html

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Z8000 parts question

by aek＠spies.com

I have seen documentation of three commercial Z8000 systems; the Olivetti M20, the Zilog system 8000 (I think that was its name), and the Ithica DPS-8000 == Central Data in Champaign/Ubana made a Multibus Z8K board that they sold with their OS and Xenix. I'll get the docs up on bitsavers for it eventually. I also have some stuff for the Zilog S8000

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Computer Estate

by Lee.Davison＠merlincommunications.com

> (the wife calls it by another name that starts with the > letter "s") S.H.I.T.E. (rhymes with kite) - Second Hand Information Technology Equipment. No shame in that. Lee. ________________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star Internet. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk ________________________________________________________________________

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older tek scope parts ?

by uban＠ubanproductions.com

Does anyone know where I might be able to locate a plastic front cover for a Tektronix 2465a scope? I tried Tektronix and they say that they no longer stock parts for the older equipment. For reference, it is 12"x6". --tnx --tom

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Rockwell R6765 datasheet

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

Hi Isn't this just a uP765 floppy controller? I think this is available from several sources. This is what was used on the first PC's. I think Intel has a different number for this as well. Dwight >From: "Jens Laland" <laland(a)drillcon.no> > >Hi > >I see that you in October 2003 were looking for the Rockwell R6765 >datasheet (Ref.: >http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctech/2003-October/021129.html). If >you by any means got hold of it, would there be a possibility that you >could share it with me? > >Best Regards, >Jens Laland >Bryne, Norway > > >I have been curious all my life, about things: something to play with, >investigate or know more about. However, a challenging process is often >better than firm results which tend to leave you in the void between lesser >storage space and the constant urge for something new. > >

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Apple mouse

by michael＠mfp.co.nz

> Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 16:35:48 -0700 > From: Marvin Johnston <marvin(a)rain.org> > Subject: Apple Mouse > To: ClassicCmp <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> > > Does anyone know when the change took place from the squarish to the > rounded end on the early Apple Macintosh mice 9 pin connector? > I believe the Mac Plus was the last model to have the D-SUB 9 for its mouse. -Michael

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FW: PDP-11/23 (free, now gone)

by ken.rauhala＠nokia.com

Hello, the system below has found a new owner, thanks to this mailing list. ken r. -----Original Message----- From: cctech-bounces(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctech-bounces@classiccmp.org] On Behalf Of ken.rauhala(a)nokia.com Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 11:33 AM To: cctalk(a)classiccmp.org Subject: PDP-11/23 (free) Hi, This was my home PC before the days of IBM PC and Microsoft. It goes back to late 1970's and early 1980's. Comes with RT-11 operating system on RX02 floopies, manuals, printer, and VT100 terminal. Located in Merrimack NH. I'm not on this mail list so reply to me directly or call. Ken Rauhala +1 781 993 4626

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Need info on SSI-263 speech chip.

by KVanMersbergen＠RandMcNally.com

I'm looking for a data sheet for an SSI-263 Speech Chip. Basically I'm looking for information on how to program it. -Ken V. *************************************************************** This E-mail is confidential. It should not be read, copied, disclosed or used by any person other than the intended recipient. Unauthorized use, disclosure or copying by whatever medium is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this E-mail in error, please contact the sender immediately and delete the E-mail from your system. ***************************************************************

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Apple mouse

by cb＠mythtech.net

>> Does anyone know when the change took place from the squarish to the >> rounded end on the early Apple Macintosh mice 9 pin connector? >> > >I believe the Mac Plus was the last model to have the D-SUB 9 for its mouse. Correct, the Plus was the last Mac with the D-9 connector. After that, they moved to ADB and the mini-din 8. However, I took the initial question as when did the D sub connector change for that style mouse from the boxy style found in the 128 to the more smooth curvy style found in the Mac Plus. I didn't respond because I don't know. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Heath HDOS disk and Source ?

by wm65805＠hotmail.com

HI : I am looking for a bootable HDOS disk and Full source for same . Also wanted diagram for H-8 and rom listing for H-8 if possible I am looking to build emaulator for Mac for the H-8. Subject: Heath HDOS Date: Fri, 07 May 2004 14:33:25 -0500 HI : Legal --- The HDOS was released to Public Domain SEE The Computer Journal #43 Page 14-16 . I can send you a PDF if that article if you wish ? I am looking the source to the Hdos myself I think this information may in the archives on compuserv ? _________________________________________________________________ Best Restaurant Giveaway Ever! Vote for your favorites for a chance to win $1 million! http://local.msn.com/special/giveaway.asp

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Wahoo! Another HP 1000!

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

I got a call this morning from one of my favorite sources. I went out there and found a HP 1000 F series and a Floating Point unit (along with many lesser goodies). :-) Joe

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Important warning: avoid erikb@cyberspace.org

by vcf＠siconic.com

I just wanted to pass along a tip to everyone in the hobby. Beware of this guy who goes around as "Erik B." (erikb(a)cyberspace.org) from the Netherlands (at least that's where he says he's from). I've had a couple very obnoxious experiences with him and in my opinion he's not to be trusted. I don't know if he uses another e-mail address (my guess is that he does) but I would be wary of anyone who goes by the name "Erik B." and won't disclose his last name nor any other information necessary for a useful transaction. He's a lurker on the CC list and who knows where else. This is only the second time I've felt it important enough to do this. I don't like to, but in some cases I think it's necessary. Just a friendly warning... -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

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Apple Cable

by cb＠mythtech.net

>Since I have no use for these cables, anyone need them? I'll go ahead >and stick them up on VCM for $1.00 each plus shipping. Thanks again!!! Try listing them on the Low End Mac swap list. These cables are essential to being able to use the DOS card. Without the cable, the card is useless. I know there are people out there that need a cable to get their card working. (I don't. I have 3 cards, and 3 cables, plus 4 and 4 of the later version) -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Z8000 parts question

by David.Kane＠aph.gov.au

<snip> I did acquire the boot disks to one from a former owner on the other side of the pond; alas, I have no unit to boot them on, but I'm still working on that. ^^ I might image them at least. I can feel an emulation coming on. However not from me at the moment, damn that "not having all the time in the world" thing. David

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WTB: PROMs 82S135, 6039, 74S741, etc.

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

Hi Patrick You might go with a larger 1Kx8 PROMs. I think these are more easily found. You can waste the rest or add jumpers to select options. It seems like I was able to get some of these from Jameco or Anchor. Just a though Dwight >From: "Patrick Rigney" <patrick(a)vintagecomputermarketplace.com> > >I'm trying to find a couple of 256x8 PROMs (unprogrammed of course) for >replacements. The original part is an 82S135 (Phillips), but equivalents >are apparently: NEC uPB421; AMD/MMI 6309, 63S09, 6309-1, 63S281; Texas >Instruments 18S22 or 28L22. If anyone knows of a source for these, or has a >couple you are willing to part with, please contact me off list. So far >I've found a lot of sites advertising, but only one has actually had the >parts and I'm hoping to do better than nearly $16 each. --Patrick > > >

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Front panel controller

by vcf＠siconic.com

A friend and I have designed a front panel controller that connects to a PC port and allows you to have up to 128 outputs (LEDs, lamps, etc.) and 64 inputs (switches, etc.) It is intended for use in functional blinkenlights replicas (like the PDP-1 replcia I'm building). It connects to a PC parallel port and is driven through software. It can be updated hundreds of times a second, which for all intents and purposes will seem continuous. We're going to write simple software drivers to control the board. It's simple enough to be integrated into just about any PC-based emulator and is designed to be scalable (up or down). Would there be any other interest in purchasing this controller? Board fab and parts in quantity 5 has the price at about $100 right now (unassembled). If there's enough interest then I'll manufacture a large batch to bring the price down and sell off kits to recoup the design and manufacturing costs for myself. E-mail me if you're interested. -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

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Z8000 parts question

by David.Kane＠aph.gov.au

<snip> Do you have any docs on the ICs used on this board? Z0800110PCS CPU, the others are Z08030AB1 Z-SCC, Z0803606PSC Z-CIO, Z0801010PSC Z-MMU and Z0858110PSC. Zilog still CMOS versions of the Z-SCC and so there is doco on their site for that chip. Jurjen Kranenborg (www.kranenborg.org/z8000) says he has tech namuals for Z-MMU, Z-SCC, and Z-CIO, and a product spec for the Z8581 clock generator chip. I also have hard copy (no scanner thought) of the MMU so I could answer questions. I have collected largeish PDFs from zilog's site of the Z-SCC and Z-CIO chips, and a big PDF of the Z8000 tech manual (which is also at Jurjen's web site). David

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pictures of Hyperion 'ex' unit

by brianmahoney＠look.ca

Finally got around to investigating the Hyperion Ex unit. I've posted several shots at these urls : http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Horizon/9107/hyperionexopen.jpg http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Horizon/9107/hyperionex.jpg http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Horizon/9107/hyperionexopenwide.jpg http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Horizon/9107/hyperionexserial.jpg http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Horizon/9107/hyperionfront.jpg The unit contains a 9600 modem, IBM serial port for a logitech mouse and a 128k memory card as well as a MiniScribe hard drive. Don't know the capacity yet, it's in the records somewhere. There are two of these, one has some trace problems and I haven't tried to run either of them. Same color as the Hyperions, and are from 1984 while the Hyperions are earlier, October '82 or so. Thought you folks might be interested. bm

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Z8000 parts question

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

Hi Joe I might have some of them. I'll not be able to check until this weekend. Dwight >From: "Joe R." <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> > >At 06:11 PM 5/11/04 -0700, Cameron wrote: >>> > Who did make Z8000 computers? The Z8000 like several other >>> > CPU's that never made it big and vanished out of sight. >>> >>> I think Commodore made a Unix machine at one point that used the Z8000. >>> You'd have to ask Cameron for sure though. :) >> >>As others have said, the 900. This used the Z8001, and was released in >>very small numbers. Recently, however, I did acquire the boot disks to >>one from a former owner on the other side of the pond; alas, I have no >>unit to boot them on, but I'm still working on that. ^^ I might image >>them at least. >> >>http://www.floodgap.com/retrobits/ckb/secret/900.html > > Cameron, > > Do you have any docs on the ICs used on this board? > > Z0800110PCS CPU, the others are Z08030AB1 Z-SCC, Z0803606PSC Z-CIO, >Z0801010PSC Z-MMU and Z0858110PSC. > > Perhaps I should add that the card has two MMUs. > > Joe >

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WTB: PROMs 82S135, 6039, 74S741, etc.

by patrick＠vintagecomputermarketplace.com

I'm trying to find a couple of 256x8 PROMs (unprogrammed of course) for replacements. The original part is an 82S135 (Phillips), but equivalents are apparently: NEC uPB421; AMD/MMI 6309, 63S09, 6309-1, 63S281; Texas Instruments 18S22 or 28L22. If anyone knows of a source for these, or has a couple you are willing to part with, please contact me off list. So far I've found a lot of sites advertising, but only one has actually had the parts and I'm hoping to do better than nearly $16 each. --Patrick

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Z8000 parts question

by David.Kane＠aph.gov.au

I have seen documentation of three commercial Z8000 systems; the Olivetti M20, the Zilog system 8000 (I think that was its name), and the Ithica DPS-8000 (I saw a Byte advert for it, not sure how well it sold). And there were as Dwight stated numerous commercial Z8000 S-100, multibus, STD bus processor cards (once again advertised in Byte). Lastly the Commodore C900, which only made it to evaluation machine stage. I believe that a few 100 were ever made, I just missed one on ebay a few months ago. I asked the purchaser a couple of times (through ebay) for his impressions and any information on it, but I got no reply. David

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Z8000 parts question

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "ben franchuk" <bfranchuk(a)jetnet.ab.ca> > >Joe R. wrote: >> Today I found a big stack of computer cards with Z8000 CPUs on them. The >> Z8000s are socketed and I planned on grabbing them. But I'm wondering if >> it's worth the trouble to take the related parts off? They're all soldered >> on so they'd take more work. Besides the Z0800110PCS CPU, the others are >> Z08030AB1 Z-SCC, Z0803606PSC Z-CIO, Z0801010PSC Z-MMU and Z0858110PSC. Any >> thoughts on this? >> >> Joe >> >> . >> > >I like my computers whole. :) >Who did make Z8000 computers? The Z8000 like several other >CPU's that never made it big and vanished out of sight. >Ben. > > > Hi Ben I think Olivetti was the only one I know of. The M20 ( I have one of these working ) was the most common. The M20 was also labled as L1 for some markets. I think there was a M30 and M40 that also had the Z8000 as well( not to be confused with the M24 that most have seen ). There were a number of custom applications and even some Multibus boards made with Z8000's but in the desk top like world, I think the M20 was it. I've got both PCOS and CPM8000 running on my M20. The board, Joe has, has the MMU so it would be a candidate for getting CPM8000 up on. I'd be a lot of work to trace out how things were interconnected. Not an easy project without some board schematics. I could assist anyone wanting to get CPM8000 running on a Z8000 system but before starting to build one, contact me and I can describe some of the design requirements. Dwight

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FT in LA, CA ASAP: SGI 4D

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Vintage Computer Festival" <vcf(a)siconic.com> > >On Tue, 11 May 2004, Dwight K. Elvey wrote: > >> >> >From: "Michael Kleinman" <mtkleinm(a)uci.edu> >> > >> >If you still have the Gould 2800, I would be interested in buying it. >> > >> > >> > >> >Mike Kleinman >> > >> > >> >> Hi >> Maybe these are part of some class project. You send out >> these strange request to see what kind of response you get. >> There are just too many of these to be real. Many, resently, >> seem to be using the same general format. > >Dwight, > >As was explained before, the off-list messages that are sent to the list >are held up until someone moderates them and either deletes or approves >them. That's why they come in spurts. Also, people are responding to old >messages that are archived and come up in Google searches. > >-- > >Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival > Hi Sellam This has all been discussed before. It just makes me wonder because the messages are so alike. I understand the clustering but not why the clusters should have so much similarity. Dwight

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New Finds: MORE Multibus cards

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

On todays scrounging mission I turned up three more Multibus cards that I hadn't seen before. (1) An Intel iSBC 88/25 with a 8088 CPU <http://www.classiccmp.org/hp/multibus/iSBC%2088_25.jpg>. (2) What looks like a ROM/PROM card made by Amtelco <http://www.classiccmp.org/hp/multibus/amtelco.jpg>. It used have a battery in the lower RH corner. You can see where it leaked and ate up some of the contacts on the P2 connector. (3) This one was made by Proconics and it says that it's an I/O card <http://www.classiccmp.org/hp/multibus/proconics%20io.jpg>. Joe

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Picture RE: Z8000 parts question

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

At 10:48 PM 5/11/04 +0100, you wrote: > This would save a lot of work to >get a working Z8000 syatem. Any pictures? This is about 1/2 the actual of the card <http://www.classiccmp.org/hp/misc/dsc.jpg> Joe

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Z8000 parts question

by Lee.Davison＠merlincommunications.com

> Today I found a big stack of computer cards with Z8000 CPUs > on them. The Z8000s are socketed and I planned on grabbing > them. But I'm wondering if it's worth the trouble to take > the related parts off? Can the board be used as is? This would save a lot of work to get a working Z8000 syatem. Any pictures? Cheers, Lee. ________________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star Internet. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk ________________________________________________________________________

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FT in LA, CA ASAP: SGI 4D

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Michael Kleinman" <mtkleinm(a)uci.edu> > >If you still have the Gould 2800, I would be interested in buying it. > > > >Mike Kleinman > > Hi Maybe these are part of some class project. You send out these strange request to see what kind of response you get. There are just too many of these to be real. Many, resently, seem to be using the same general format. Dwight

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FT in LA, CA ASAP: SGI 4D

by mtkleinm＠uci.edu

If you still have the Gould 2800, I would be interested in buying it. Mike Kleinman

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Front panel controller

by RCini＠congressfinancial.com

Sellam: I certainly would be interested. And, if the interface is "easy" enough I can integrate software support into the Altair32 Emulator. Rich -----Original Message----- From: cctalk-bounces(a)classiccmp.org [mailto:cctalk-bounces@classiccmp.org]On Behalf Of Vintage Computer Festival Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 3:25 PM To: Classic Computers Mailing List; Bay Area Computer Collector List Subject: Front panel controller A friend and I have designed a front panel controller that connects to a PC port and allows you to have up to 128 outputs (LEDs, lamps, etc.) and 64 inputs (switches, etc.) It is intended for use in functional blinkenlights replicas (like the PDP-1 replcia I'm building). It connects to a PC parallel port and is driven through software. It can be updated hundreds of times a second, which for all intents and purposes will seem continuous. We're going to write simple software drivers to control the board. It's simple enough to be integrated into just about any PC-based emulator and is designed to be scalable (up or down). Would there be any other interest in purchasing this controller? Board fab and parts in quantity 5 has the price at about $100 right now (unassembled). If there's enough interest then I'll manufacture a large batch to bring the price down and sell off kits to recoup the design and manufacturing costs for myself. E-mail me if you're interested. -- Sellam Ismail Vintage Computer Festival ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- International Man of Intrigue and Danger http://www.vintage.org [ Old computing resources for business || Buy/Sell/Trade Vintage Computers ] [ and academia at www.VintageTech.com || at http://marketplace.vintage.org ]

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Restoring a VAXstation 3500

by torquil＠chemist.com

Hello everyone, Recently, I met up with listmember Rick Murphy to take a beautiful VAXstation 3500 (KA650, QBus, RX50, DEQNA)in BA123 enclosure, along with VR290 monitor, puck mouse and keyboard, off his hands. (Allow me to commend him for being a good sport, I was ~30 minutes late ;)) It is a near flawless machine, except both of its RD53s are dead as doornails. The platter isn't stuck, but the opening up the drive tricks have all been tried. It powers up and then powers right back down. (But is at least detected, it seems) In any case, I am looking to make this thing work again. :) I am looking for any kind of Qbus goodies, specifically a SCSI card. If this is too rare an item, I am looking for a DSSI card. If this isn't an option either, I am looking for any RDxx drive. I am also looking for an RX22 drive, so that I can load a kernel off it and not have to worry with all that stuff, just simple, reliable NFS. :) Lastly (and this is a long shot), does anyone have a spare backdoor to the BA123 enclosure, or even just the hinge would do (mine is falling off). Any replies are appreciated, I can't wait to get this thing up and running as a full-time server. :) -- Thanks, Torquil MacCorkle, III Lexington, Virginia

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Apple Cable

by marvin＠rain.org

Anyone know what this cable is used for? It has two 15 pin female Apple monitor connectors, one 15 pin male connector, and one 26 pin connector. Thanks! http://www.rain.org/~marvin/applecbl.jpg

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Apple II - LPS II Gibson Light Pen

by nogard＠cishollywood.com

Bought one of Ebay recently, but it comes without software. Was wondering if anybody might be able to provide it to me in some form? Thanks, Christopher Ryan

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Manual for DEC DF242-CA ?

by waltje＠pdp11.nl

Hiyas, Does anyone have a manual for the DEC DFD242-CA (Scholar Plus) modem, part number EK-DF2XD-UG ? Thankee, Fred -- Fred N. van Kempen, DEC (Digital Equipment Corporation) Collector/Archivist Visit the VAXlab Project at http://VAXlab.pdp11.nl/ Visit the Archives at http://www.pdp11.nl/ Email: waltje(a)pdp11.nl BUSSUM, THE NETHERLANDS / Mountain View, CA, USA

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OT: Tube manufacturing in China

by nbreeden2＠comcast.net

Interesting pictures from a tube manufacturing plant in China. http://www.supertnt.com/default/news3.asp -Neil

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Apple Cable

by cb＠mythtech.net

>Anyone know what this cable is used for? It has two 15 pin female Apple >monitor connectors, one 15 pin male connector, and one 26 pin connector. >Thanks! > >http://www.rain.org/~marvin/applecbl.jpg It goes to the DOS Compatibility card for either a Quadra 610 or a PowerMac 6100 (both used the same cable). There is also a version for the later PC Compatibility card that worked in a number of PCI PowerMacs. Slightly different cable was used for them. The visual difference being the later one lacks the Joystick connector on the cable (the PC Compatibility card had the joystick port on the card). I do not believe the two styles of cable are interchangeable. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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Toshiba IHC-8000 (Pasopia Mini)

by spectre＠floodgap.com

Anyone out there know (or might be persuaded to part with >:-) any source on the Toshiba IHC-8000 (aka Pasopia Mini)? This was a small "pocket computer" circa 1983 with 4K of RAM and a 24x1 character LCD. Let me know if anyone remembers this unit, or better still, has one (working or not). -- ---------------------------------- personal: http://www.armory.com/~spectre/ -- Cameron Kaiser, Floodgap Systems Ltd * So. Calif., USA * ckaiser(a)floodgap.com -- His mind is like a steel trap -- full of mice. -- Foghorn Leghorn ----------

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Pertec Interface

by tractorb＠ihug.co.nz

Is there a definitive document anywhere on the net on this? Or anywhere else? This http://www.dbit.com/pub/pdp11/info/pertec.txt is good, but is there a formal definition document ? I have the impression from the preamble to the above text that the answer is negative. Dave Brown Christchurch, NZ

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FA: More DEC stuff

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

I just posted a bunch more DEC stuff on E-bay including an A8000 A/D card and some other odd stuff. <http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewSellersOtherItems&userid=rigdonj> I will be posting more soon. Joe

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Sharp PDA question

by evan947＠yahoo.com

Here's a strange one... what is the difference (other than the names) between the Sharp IQ-7000 and the Sharp OZ-7000? I'm sitting here holding both in my hand. The IQ version has a label calling it the "Electronic Organizer" while the OZ version has a label calling it the more popular "Wizard." Otherwise they are identical twins (including the instruction manuals.) Unfortunately neither has batteries right now, so I can't boot them to check for OS versions, etc. Even if Sharp merely changed the name from Organizer to Wizard, why would they bother drastically changing the model prefix from IQ- to OZ-? Evan

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Atari TT030 install media...

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

I know very little about these machines, but one just turned up on the doorstep for the museum. Power supply checks out, I get a white display (so something useful looks to be happening in the video circuitry), but I get no spin-up from the hard disk (A Seagate ST-157 SCSI drive) and a steady floppy drive light. I'm not sure if the hard disk is fixable yet - no idea if it's a head crash or whatever. There seems to be little about these drives on the web, but I did see one comment that they were famous for stiction - in which case maybe I can give it a hand in spinning up... Does anyone have install media if it comes to that though? I can always drop a different SCSI drive in it (I think I have a spare 160MB drive somewhere), but I don't have any floppies for this machine and I gather they never were particularly common, sitting somewhere between the ST and the Falcon... cheers Jules

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Computer Estate

by Bogilady＠aol.com

Is there a company or private party in the Pacific Northwest that specializes in liquidating computer estates? They date from the late 1970s to the mid 1990s in various conditions. I really don't want to recycle them at scrap price if someone out there can use them. I figured ebay is a good place for anything unopened, but all the rest is simply overwhelming. Help, suggestions, ideas and warnings are welcomed. Cathy

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PDP8s for sale

by tandem＠comcast.net

I have 2 complete, working PDP8s for sale to a good home. Is there a good place to list them? tm

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Need Help: NEC PowerMate Portable SX

by usenet25＠mail.keck.cx

Cheers! I just came across this old posting at http://www.classiccmp.org/pipermail/cctech/2003-February/010530.html I have one of these, and I've started to play with it; while searching the net for the setup utility (ftp.necsam.com has these), I found some info regarding the switches at http://www.embeddedlogic.com/TH99/m/M-O/31485.htm Hope this helps! Regards, Cornelius -- Cornelius Keck ------------------------ usenet25(a)keck.us

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