- test-drb@ccmp.vtda.org - classiccmp.org

by aek＠spies.com

> I'd love to get a Lisp Machine, but I really can't justify to myself > either the shipping costs or the space it would take up. Fortunately > it appears it won't get tossed, which is my other worry. OK.. so how do I see such a machine... I can't figure out how a LISP machine "works" , or gets programmed. Guess they're from before my time... heeeelp !? === The short answer is Lisp Machines were microcoded computers optimized for executing Lisp. There were several variants, the 'east coast' ones developed from the MIT CADR, and the 'west coast' ones based on Xerox D Machine. There is a lot of information on the web about them MIT CADR LMI Lisp Machine Symbolics LM-1 TI Explorer LMI Lambda Symbolics 36xx TI Explorer II / MicroExplorer Interlisp on PDP10s Interlisp-D on Xerox 1100,1132,1108/9,1186 Xerox Lisp (Common Lisp from Lyric release through various Medley releases) Envos (spinoff from Xerox) Venue

21 years, 10 months

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OT: Let's Hammer a Spammer!

by zmerch＠30below.com

Guys/Gals, I need your help. Let's put a serious whoopin' on a spammer! I just got 7 spams from a company (more info below) and following is what I sent to the following people in the company (all the email addresses I could find from their website): ElaineS(a)flagstaffuniforms.com, Jaime(a)flagstaffuniforms.com, JerrytheB(a)flagstaffuniforms.com, FredB(a)flagstaffuniforms.com, Artdept(a)flagstaffuniforms.com, RonT(a)flagstaffuniforms.com, richs(a)flagstaffuniforms.com, The main offender is: richs(a)flagstaffuniforms.com So I sent this in response (original spam attached): =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= cut here =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Looketyhere, people! I'm a lifetime geek (almost 20 years), and my wife runs an in-home daycare. Why in Deity's Name would I need hospital scrubs? How in the Hades can you say that you're anti-spam when I have absolutely no need for your product and *did not* sign up for your service? I received not one, not two, but *7* of these pieces of crap from your company. Believe me, I will tell all of the medical professionals I know to make sure they do *not* use your company. Please do not use the mailing list you received/purchased ever again... or else. Regards, Roger Merchberger P.S. Here's your filth back to you. >To: Subscribers >FROM: "richard schwerdtmann"<richs(a)flagstaffuniforms.com> >Importance: Normal >Sensitivity: Normal >Subject: Special of the Month >Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 10:53:12 -0400 >Sender: > >Greetings Flagstaff Customer, > >Check out our new Special of the Month for May: >Pinfeather Size Matching Scrub Sets, available in 6 Colors! >A low price of $17.50! Get yours today! Very Limited Quantity! > >Copy and paste this link: >https://www.flagstaffuniforms.com/specialofthemonth.htm > >Sign up for a FREE catalog and you are automatically entered into our Size >Matching Scrub Set giveaway. (With valid email) >Copy and paste this link: https://www.flagstaffuniforms.com/catalogue.htm > >Be sure to check out the rest of our site for low priced, high quality >Healthcare uniforms! Ordering is always safe through our secure website! > >Thank you for making Flagstaff your healthcare uniform provider! > >Sincerely, > >Flagstaff Staff >http://www.flagstaffuniforms.com > >We are anti-spam!, if you have received this email in error or otherwise >wish to be removed from our mailing list, please send an email with REMOVE >in the subject line to richs(a)flagstaffuniforms.com =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= cut here =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= After that, the guy sent me this: =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= cut here =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Return-Path: <richs(a)flagstaffuniforms.com> Delivered-To: z(a)30below.com Received: (qmail 1840 invoked by uid 0); 19 May 2004 18:56:34 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.flagstaffuniforms.com) (65.174.169.64) by 0 with SMTP; 19 May 2004 18:56:34 -0000 Received: from richflag [65.174.169.41] by mail.flagstaffuniforms.com with ESMTP (SMTPD32-7.10) id ABBE10100C2; Wed, 19 May 2004 14:47:26 -0400 Message-ID: <000c01c43dd4$40b96730$170aa8c0(a)flagstaff.local> Reply-To: "richard schwerdtmann" <richs(a)flagstaffuniforms.com> From: "richard schwerdtmann" <richs(a)flagstaffuniforms.com> To: "Roger Merchberger" <z(a)30below.com> Subject: Re: Special of the Month Date: Wed, 19 May 2004 15:05:27 -0400 Organization: Flagstaff Ind. X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 One word........... Remove ....... it works just like everyone else in the world does. We have many daycare employees who where scrubsets it is very common. But some people live with there head in the sand I guess. I WILL OF COUSE REMOVE YOU FROM OUR MAILING LIST Thank you for your understanding in this little matter Richard Schwerdtmann =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= cut here =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= *Then* I got 3 more spams!!! I'd like to get everyone I can to send a few (say... 10, like I got, but more is good, too!) mails to all the fine folks at Flagstaff Uniforms... Thanks one and all! Roger "Merch" Merchberger -- Roger "Merch" Merchberger | "Profile, don't speculate." sysadmin, Iceberg Computers | Daniel J. Bernstein zmerch(a)30below.com |

21 years, 10 months

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Lear Siegler ADM3 terminals

by MTPro＠aol.com

In a message dated Tue, 18 May 2004 21:41:13 -0700 (PDT) Vintage Computer Festival <vcf(a)siconic.com> writes: > > $20 each is fair. A little less ($10-$15) if they are in > crap condition, > a little more ($25) if they are in great condition. > No offense Sellam, but I would say that they are worth about double those figures, for east coast values. I recently sold one in good condition for about $50 or $60 I think. Best, David, classiccomputing.com

21 years, 10 months

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ct-600n

by cb＠mythtech.net

>Hello, >If you are still interested, I have a total of 11 compatible tapes (8 >Teac CT-600N and 3 Maxell CS-600XD). All are used and have used labels. > As far as I know, they all still work. (I still have the tape drive as >well, but have no longer an operating Apple system, so I cannot check >these). > >If you are interested, please let me know. I assume this was meant for me since I was looking for these tapes a long while back, so I'll respond. Nope, I'm no longer interested. I've gotten rid of the drive, and the few tapes I had (which didn't work with my drive anyway), have been sent on to someone else that could use them. Thanks anyway. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

21 years, 10 months

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HP computers / test gear in Chicago

by swperk＠earthlink.net

Hello all, I sure hope someone from this group can make it there Saturday and pick up some of these machines. I wish I could, but I'm a couple of thousand miles away... I'm very (and I mean *very*) interested in that HP 9820/21 (hint, hint). Regards, Stan >Scanning thru a newsgroup, I happened on this: >http://chicagotest.i8.com/BigSale.html >If you look at the pictures, there are several HP desktop calc/computers >underneath alll that other Stuff... >website says most everything will be in the $10 - 30 range - this coming >Saturday, the 22nd. > >Might be some Rescue Opportunities > >Cheers >John

21 years, 10 months

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Would you be interested in selling your book?

by chris＠gsc-software.com

Hi, I saw on a news group posting that you owned the book "How to build a working digital computer" by Edward Alcosser. Would you be interested in selling this book? I would also pay top dollar for a photocopy of the book. Thank you for your time, - Chris Lind

21 years, 10 months

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Lear Siegler ADM3 terminals

by dave04a＠dunfield.com

>That depends on which DEC world you circulated in... there's been a termcap >entry for the ADM 3A in UNIX for as far back as my experience goes. > >I don't recall seeing them at all in non-university or non-UNIX settings, >though. DEC terminals cost enough that in the notoriously cheap educational >market, people gave serious consideration to other forms of terminals (I >have reciepts from the early-to-mid-1980s for VT100s at around $1,700 each, >which is why Software Results had a mix of DEC terminals and CiTOH terminals, >'101's and '101e's). The ADM3 did not perform cursor addressing, which the ADM3A did, making the 3A much more useful in many applications - I don't think there would be a termcap entry for a 3. Btw, on the off chance that these are 3A's, I'll mention that I have detailed photos of one, as well as PDF's of both the operators and service manuals posted on my web site: http://www.parse.com/~ddunfield/museum/index.html Look under the "Altair 8800" entry (I use a 3A on the Altair). Regards, Dave -- dave04a (at) Dave Dunfield dunfield (dot) Firmware development services & tools: www.dunfield.com com Vintage computing equipment collector. http://www.parse.com/~ddunfield/museum/index.html

21 years, 10 months

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Manual for HP 82928A System Monitor?

by vp＠cs.drexel.edu

82928A System monitor: Provides the necessary hardware to aid in developing and debugging assembly language programs for HP Series 80 Personal Computers. The HP 00085-15007 (or 00087-15007), 82928A and 82929A form a complete set of tools. The 82928A System monitor is described in the HP85 Assembler ROM manual. This manual is currently available on the MoHPC CDROM (http://www.hpmuseum.org) collection (if you are interested in the 85 then purchasing the MpHPC collection should be a priority as it also contains the 85 service manual). Somebody has promised me a scan of the 85 assembler manual, so it should appear shortly in the www.series80.org site as well. Last but certainly not least is John Shadbolt's site (http://www.vintagecomputers.freeserve.co.uk/hp80) **vp

21 years, 10 months

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Lear Siegler ADM3 terminals

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Vintage Computer Festival" <vcf(a)siconic.com> > >On Wed, 19 May 2004, John Allain wrote: > >> > Some folks have an idea that these things are scarce, >> > which they aren't. >> >> Just as a supporting argument you might want to list two or >> three places where a person could go and get one of these. > >eBay, VCM, my warehouse ;) > Hi I'd be more interested in getting a Beehive terminal. Intel blue would be nice. Dwight

21 years, 10 months

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AIM65 test program?

by rcini＠optonline.net

Hello, all: While browsing an early-1980 issue of Compute magazine, I saw a blurb for Rockwell offering copies of the manufacturing test program for the AIM 65 computer. The blurb references a test manual (#EA74-M800) and a test program listing (#EA74-J100). It also indicates that on the manufacturing line, two EPROMs with the test program are installed in the BASIC ROM slots. Does anyone have either manual or the ROMs in question? Thanks. Rich

21 years, 10 months

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Lear Siegler ADM3 terminals

by d_cymbal＠hotmail.com

My father has 10 or 12 of these terminals that he has no need for. I'm not familiar with them, would they be of interest to anybody or should I tell him to just scrap them?

21 years, 10 months

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ct-600n

by JeffreyI＠teamtli.com

PLEASE CONTACT ME REGARDING THESE TAPES IF YOU STILL HAVE THEM. Hello, If you are still interested, I have a total of 11 compatible tapes (8 Teac CT-600N and 3 Maxell CS-600XD). All are used and have used labels. As far as I know, they all still work. (I still have the tape drive as well, but have no longer an operating Apple system, so I cannot check these). If you are interested, please let me know. romboc

21 years, 10 months

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DEC RK07 drive interface specs wanted

by jkunz＠unixag-kl.fh-kl.de

Hi. All this talk about frontpanel emulators... So I have this (mostly) working PDP-11/34, my one and only UniBus machine. It came with a RK07 drive. But the system was stored under bad conditions for years. There is rust and corrosion _everywhere_. The machine works so far but the drive is quite rotten. I have no other UniBus disk drive interfaces so I need either a new RK07 (unlikely) or a replacement for the entire conroler / drive combination or: What about a RK07 drive emulating hardware? A microcontroler with some TTLs to interface to the RK611 controler on one side and a compact FLASH card on the other. Maybe cache RAM in front of the FLASH to reduce write cycles to the FLASH. 32 MB is enough for a RK07 disk, even if the emulator stores raw data including all sector headers / trailers. Problem: Exact and detaild specs of the RK611 <=> RK0[67] interface. I found some hints in the "RK06/RK07 Disk Drive User's Manual" but not enough to build a new drive from scratch. Any pointers? -- tsch??, Jochen Homepage: http://www.unixag-kl.fh-kl.de/~jkunz/

21 years, 10 months

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New pictures; UYK-20 Computer Core Memory

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

I just finished adding some pictures of the core memory boards from the UYK-20 to my website at <http://www.classiccmp.org/hp/UYK-20/>. This <http://www.classiccmp.org/hp/UYK-20/back.jpg> is a picture of the back of one memory card with a 3.5" floppy disk laying on it for size comparision. This <http://www.classiccmp.org/hp/UYK-20/top.jpg> is a picture of the top. The core is under the green cover. Here is a close-up of the Sperry Univac logo on the memory board. And finally, here <http://www.classiccmp.org/hp/UYK-20/core.jpg> is a picture of the core itself. You can get an idea of the size of the core area in comparision with the 3.5" floppy disk in the LH edge of the picture. The green over comes off very easily. Just remove four screws and it slides off. Lyle Bickley send me a couple of PDF files about the UYK-20 and I've posted them on the same webpage. Joe

21 years, 10 months

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HP computers / test gear in Chicago

by jpl15＠panix.com

Scanning thru a newsgroup, I happened on this: http://chicagotest.i8.com/BigSale.html If you look at the pictures, there are several HP desktop calc/computers underneath alll that other Stuff... website says most everything will be in the $10 - 30 range - this coming Saturday, the 22nd. Might be some Rescue Opportunities Cheers John

21 years, 10 months

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Beehive: was Lear Siegler ADM3 terminals

by Innfogra＠aol.com

I think Beehives are much more rarer than ADMs of any kind. Beehives were highly sought after by my scrapper as they had an aluminum case and good cards. He actively sought out Beehives as one of the best terminals to scrap along with the early Sorocs and went out of his way to search them out. As a result there are few Intel ones in PDX. ADMs survived by having very poor scrap values and high disposal costs for the plastic case. Paxton Astoria, OR

21 years, 10 months

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Elektor and OSI's OS-65D (was OHIO-DOS)

by sarkis＠mslabo.com

bonjour moi aussi jai un c4p avec la carte 502 sans lecteur de disk et je cherche lr os65d ou os65u pour un branchement de sa400 cordialement sd

21 years, 10 months

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Lear Siegler ADM3 terminals

by sloboyko＠yahoo.com

These terminals are very nice; I have a brown one and a blue one. One part that always breaks or is missing is the flap on the front for the DIP switches. I made aluminum plates to fit in the recess. Both of mine had seriously burned in CRT's; I put in new ones I got for about $40 each shipped (I hate this kind of work, but I did it) and now they look and feel new. I opted for B/W for "originality", although I could have gotten green phosphor at the same price. One didn't have the lower case option; the chip for lower case is hard to find. So I copied the ROM out of the ADM-3 with lower case (2kx8, strange voltages and pinouts, a 2513-type ROM), blew a 2716, and made a little adapter to plug into the other ADM-3's 2513 socket. This, two 2102-1 RAMs, and a few flips of dip switches gave me lower case! Absolutely hideous matrix, but very authentic! ===== -Steve Loboyko Incredible wisdom actually found in a commerical fortune cookie: "When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day." Website: http://juliepalooza.8m.com/sl __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! - Internet access at a great low price. http://promo.yahoo.com/sbc/

21 years, 10 months

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Nonvolatile RAM on single board computers

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

Hi I usually make copies on two diferent media. I make a copy on another similar device and also a 3.5 floppy. I keep these with the unit. Have you played with the SBC any? What kind is it? These are always interesting to collect because of the chalenges of locating software and documentation for them. I've been known to connect up a switch panel to a uP socket and use this to determine the addresses of ports and memory. I did this on a 80C186 machine and implemented a Forth on it so that I could play with it. Development boards are also fun to play with. I have a few of these. Later Dwight >From: "SHAUN RIPLEY" <vax3900(a)yahoo.com> > >I have a SBC with nonvolatile RAM on it. There are >DRAM and EPROM too. I guess the nonvolatile RAM might >be used to hold some important parameters while EPROM >is used to hold program. > >Since nonvolatile RAM has limited life, I wonder how >you guys deal with nonvolatile RAM in your old >computers. Reading out the content with a EPROM >programmer is a solution that jumps into my mind. >"Burn" a new nonvolatile RAM and wait for another 10 >years? It seems a boring work... > >vax, 3900 > > > > >__________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >SBC Yahoo! - Internet access at a great low price. >http://promo.yahoo.com/sbc/ >

21 years, 10 months

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AT-AO-6/10

by CGUARDIA＠VENTURAFOODS.com

Do you still have any of these for sale?

21 years, 10 months

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Nintendo GameBoy a valid discussion topic now?

by cb＠mythtech.net

>While digging around in the basement last night I found my old Nintendo >GameBoy, with a 1999 manufacture date. That makes it 15 years old. >Does this now make it a classic? > >The interesting thing is that the old 1999 GameBoy games will play in >my six year old's brand new 2004 Gameboy Advanced SP. Shall we presume you meant 1989, or are you counting in a different base? 1999 - 2004 is 5 years, not 15. -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

21 years, 10 months

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New pictures; UYK-20 Computer and Millennium uProcessor System tester

by dwight.elvey＠amd.com

>From: "Joe R." <rigdonj(a)cfl.rr.com> > > I've added some more pictures to my website. The first ones are of one >of the UYK-20 computers. These were made by Sperry Rand and are militry >versions of the Univac and use core memory. ><http://www.classiccmp.org/hp/UYK-20/>. The other pictures ---snip--- Hi Joe Does anyone know what processor model was used for these? It would be great to power one of these up and actually program one. It looks like a 16 bit machine. Dwight

21 years, 10 months

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New pictures; UYK-20 Computer and Millennium uProcessor System tester

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

I've added some more pictures to my website. The first ones are of one of the UYK-20 computers. These were made by Sperry Rand and are militry versions of the Univac and use core memory. <http://www.classiccmp.org/hp/UYK-20/>. The other pictures <http://www.classiccmp.org/hp/millennium/> are of the Millennium microproccessor tester that was discussed here a few weeks ago. I took these pictures in a hurry and they aren't real good, particularly the ones of the Millennium. It was in the back of a dark warehouse and the pictures show it. One item of interest on the Millennium is the pullout drawer on the side. It has the CPU and all of the CPU spcific items on it. In other words, you can change it from an 8080 system to a 6800 system by merely changeing that drawer. I have two of these and IIRC one is 6800 and the other is 8080 based. Joe

21 years, 10 months

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Altos 686

by bmachacek＠pcisys.net

I just noticed I have an Altos 686 (without a cover) PC in my stack of 'old computer stuff'. It's s model 25A with one 5 1/4 inch floppy drive and a Seagate ST225 hard drive. Is this one of Altos computers that people are interested in or something that needs to be scrapped? Thanks for any help you can give me. Bill Machacek

21 years, 10 months

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DECmate II

by aw288＠osfn.org

Another item that will be leaving my collection (mostly because I never did anything with it) is a DECmate II - the micro version of the PDP-8 (Intersil 6120 based, I think). A couple of questions, as I would like to test the thing out before I offer it to anyone. 1) Whay kind of video is "video"? Some sort of odd tube? Whatever it is, I don't have it so I am hoping the box supports a dumb terminal. 2) Will I boot this up from a dumb terminal (VT100, my guess)? What are the specifics? This machine is in decent condition, with an RX50 and a hard disk of some sort. I have no manuals. William Donzelli aw288(a)osfn.org

21 years, 10 months

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another good auction auction AND free Sun OS manuals.

by tponsford＠theriver.com

Hi All, Another good haul at the auction today: one HP J2240 (dual cpu) and a J210XC. another cypher 9-track and 4 Boxes of still-in-the-wrapper sun os manuals: (2) 4.0 System Admin Manuals Minibox 825-1048-10 (these are in the original mini-box. still shrinkwrapped) Circa 1988 contents: Sun OS 4.0 Change Notes Installing GunOS System and Network admin Security Features Guide Prom Users manual Sun System Diagnostics Manual Also two boxes: Sun Reference Manuals including Assembly Language Reference for Sun-2 and Sun-3 Sun Programmers Manuals The last two boxes include some fairly thick reference Manuals most still shrinkwrapped I's like to give the Sun Manuals free to a good home, preferably to someone who collects Sun OS stuff or who make the info in these manuals available over the web, copyrights, of course, maintained. If not than anyone who needs them. If multiple requests: first come first served, or make me an offer I can't refuse. You pay shipping usps media mail. Cheers Tom -- --- Please do not read this sig. If you have read this far, please unread back to the beginning.

21 years, 10 months

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Lear Siegler ADM3 terminals

by MTPro＠aol.com

<< I recently sold one in good condition for about $50 or $60 I think. >. Oops, I sold an ADM 5 on vintage.org marketplace for $79. That was in mid-February. I guess these are worth more for the lower case text? Best, classiccomputing.com

21 years, 10 months

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Manual for HP 82928A System Monitor?

by dan＠ekoan.com

Hello, This weekend I picked up a Hewlett-Packard 82928A System Monitor, which is a plug-in module for the HP 85 desktop computer. I have the box, the cartridge and a two-page "Installation Sheet", but no manual. Does anyone have a manual for this module? Cheers, Dan www.decodesystems.com/wanted.html

21 years, 10 months

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Sun Ultra 1 questions

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

See my other post about the Ultra 1 I found. (I think it's a couple of years too new to be on-topic - sorry!) I put the pair of memory sticks in there which I got in the same day and tried powering the machine up using a terminal as the console. Amazingly, it's alive! At the moment it's set to boot from the network - any idea how I can interrupt that and get into the boot monitor in order to switch that off? I think there's some key combination to do it from a keyboard, but of course I don't have one handy at the moment - just the console. There's a clear perspex bracket above the CPU for holding a fan, but no fan. As this machine had been stripped before I got it, I don't know if it should have one and someone had taken it out. The CPU has a large finned heatsink on it - on the web I saw a vague report that Sun may have stopped putting fans in the machines on later ones and just used a larger heatsink. Any ideas? Finally, any clue as to whether the Apple SCSI CDROM I got will work in the Ultra? It's a 1993 vintage drive, an "AppleCD 300 Plus". If not, I do have a SCSI drive that'll do both 512 and 2048 block sizes, but it's in a running machine at the moment... No idea why this machine was thrown out. It seems to work so far. Maybe it has an intermittant fault when it's been running for a while, or maybe the network interface is dead (according to console messages it notices when a cable's present or not though). cheers Jules

21 years, 10 months

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DEC RK07 drive interface specs wanted

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On May 18, 7:37, Vintage Computer Festival wrote: > And it must also be remembered that these folks did this when it was > economically feasible to spend a day or two tracking down and repairing a > problem. Business is time, and time is money, so as technology evolved > and came down in price, it became more practical to just swap boards (both > for the user and the supplier). > > Sometimes we lose a sense of the more pragmatic aspects of tech work. If > your business is halted because a computer system is down, would you > rather your tech take a few hours or a day or two to track down and fix a > problem, or would you rather they swap a few boards in an hour or so until > they find the problem? It's also worth pointing out that by the '80s, some of the boards required diagnostics and equipment that it wasn't practical for every field service guy to carry. A lot of companies did as the one I worked for: field service engineers were trained (quite carefully) to pin a problem down to a board, replace that, and send the faulty one to their central workshop (ours was in Stoke) where it would be repaired and tested. There's nothing wrong with swapping a board providing you know which to swap (implying "why", at some level) and the faulty one gets fixed (assuming it's economic). -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

21 years, 10 months

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DEC ROM and RAM boards

by Lee.Davison＠merlincommunications.com

Remembered to bring the details ... The ROM board is marked .. "5419803 5019802-01 A1" and "ROM DWT CARD" .. and holds 14 27C010 1Mb EPROMs. The back has a label saying "VT1000 2.2" I can use these EPROMs so if no one needs them or the contents they'll be recycled next week. The RAM card is marked .. "5019806" and "5419807" .. and has one 1MB SIMM marked .. "5419805" .. I have no use for this at all. Cheers, Lee. ________________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star Internet. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk ________________________________________________________________________

21 years, 10 months

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Fwd: wtb: Apple //C power supply

by ron.hudson＠sbcglobal.net

Begin forwarded message: > From: Ron Hudson <ron.hudson(a)sbcglobal.net> > Date: May 18, 2004 2:48:45 PM PDT > To: Classic Computers <cctalk(a)classiccmp.org> > Subject: wtb: Apple //C power supply > > > Want an apple IIC power supply $10.00 plus shipping > to 95127. > > Contact: jh1960(a)pacbell.net > > P.S. Please put "Apple Power Supply in Subject" Thanks.

21 years, 10 months

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wtb: Apple //C power supply

by ron.hudson＠sbcglobal.net

Want an apple IIC power supply $10.00 plus shipping to 95127. Contact: jh1960(a)pacbell.net

21 years, 10 months

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MDS 7 track tape drive pictures

by aek＠spies.com

There are a bunch of key to tape system descriptions in: www.bitsavers.org/pdf/mohawk/KeyingMagtapeForComputers_1968.pdf I'm guessing what William has is part of a magnetic tape data transmission system.

21 years, 10 months

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RSTS/E and PDP 11/23

by wacarder＠usit.net

I acquired a PDP 11/23 this weekend. It runs RT-11, which boots fine from either the RL01 or RX01s. Has anyone ever attempted to run RSTS/E on an 11/23? I was thinking about attempting to SYSGEN RSTS/E v7.0 on this machine, but in looking over some info on RSTS/E, it does not list the 11/23 as one of the systems that RSTS/E will run on. Ashley

21 years, 10 months

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MDS 7 track tape drive pictures

by aw288＠osfn.org

http://users.bestweb.net/~toober/images/WU.jpg http://users.bestweb.net/~toober/images/WU.top.jpg http://users.bestweb.net/~toober/images/WU.head.jpg William Donzelli aw288(a)osfn.org

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Update on Trip, opinions on purchases...

by zmerch＠30below.com

Well, amazingly, I'm still alive after my trip to the Dayton Hamvention... ;-) Got down there Friday nite, so I didn't get any chance to peruse the flea-market booths then (which is when I'm told most of the classic schtuff is available...) on Saturday, it rained like a ... Well, a lot. It didn't ease off until about 1600hrs, when I finally figured I'd "venture out into the wilderness", so most vendors were still wrapped up prolly figuring the entire day was a lost cause & went to drown their sorrows. I did see a Heathkit EPROM burner (4800? methinks) - guy wanted $50 but "might" take $40. I told him I'd think about it, it was gone Sunday. (It did have the personality modules up to a 27256.) Dunno if it was a good buy or not. That was all I saw for classic gear (other than PeeCees that were 10+ years old, I'm not counting that due to the boredom associated with said particular platform. ;-) [1] Sunday was nicer, overcast but warmer & no rain, so it was a good day to do some exploring, and all I saw was a TI-44/9a with 1 cart for $20, an unpriced Apple //e, and some unpriced assorted Suns. Altho I'm not "the most worldly wize d00d on the planet" I do know that most of the time, if it's unmarked, the price doubles when you ask. I generally don't waste my time or theirs. ;-) Nothing Tandy-ish, let alone Model 10x/200 which is what I was hoping for... :-( As a lead-in to another thread, tho, I did pick up a soldering station & desoldering gun. For $100 I got a Hakko 939 soldering station w/1 tip (it's fine for medium work, but for some fine circuitry I'd want a finer tip), photocopied manual, and key (yes, you need a small "punch-card" key to change the temperature & the configuration... each tip has a "temperature coefficient" that you key into the station, to keep an exact temperature, AFAICT)... Anyone else have any experience with this brand/model of soldering station? The cheapest I'd found on ePay (tho I didn't search completed auctions yet) was $150, and it looks like they still make 'em for about $400, so I think I did OK... I also snagged a $65 Soder-Wick SC-5000 desoldering gun. My only concern is that the guy told me the filters are no longer being produced for this model (he had the SC-7000, but I didn't have the $475 required to purchase the rascal). I've already googled around a bit for this model, and I got 1 website: His. The filter on it right now is "nearly new" and he stated that it would take me a long time to wear that filter out, but I'm still concerned about finding replacements. Anyone know or use this model? Oh, and I did find an AUI transceiver for my Vaxstation so when I have the room to set that up again... Externally powered (never seen one of those before) w/wallwart, $3. Not too bad... ;-) Laterz, Roger "Merch" Merchberger [1] and there were a *lot* of them. Anything from a '386 & up could be had for anywhere from super-cheap to "what the hell are you smoking" prices. Sad, really... -- Roger "Merch" Merchberger | JC: "Like those people in Celeronville!" sysadmin, Iceberg Computers | Me: "Don't you mean Silicon Valley???" zmerch(a)30below.com | JC: "Yea, that's the place!" | JC == Jeremy Christian

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DEC handbook series - official list?

by waltje＠pdp11.nl

Hi all! While attempting to get some organization back into one of my study rooms (the one where all my DEC docs and media are), I again ran into the problem of organizing my collection of the wellknown "Handbook" series of DEC publications. I have many, but after sorting them out, and taking out the dupes (which *are* available for trade, by the way) I noticed some volumes were clearly missing in series where they had multiple-volume issues. So, is there (from DEC, or collected by us) some sort of "master list" of which handbooks were published by DEC? This would help me a lot in finding the ones I am missing, or think I am missing... Thankee, Fred -- Fred N. van Kempen, DEC (Digital Equipment Corporation) Collector/Archivist Visit the VAXlab Project at http://VAXlab.pdp11.nl/ Visit the Archives at http://www.pdp11.nl/ Email: waltje(a)pdp11.nl BUSSUM, THE NETHERLANDS / Mountain View, CA, USA

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DEC handbook series - official list?

by mbg＠TheWorld.com

You could also check my list... I have a somewhat large collection of dec handbooks. At one point while working for DEC, I got myself on an automatic distribution list to receive a copy of all new handbooks as they came out... I was on it for a few years before they stopped doing it. Anyway, check out http://world.std.com/~mbg/dec_handbooks.html Megan Gentry Former RT-11 Developer +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+ | Megan Gentry, EMT/B, PP-ASEL,ST| email: mbg at world.std.com | | Member of Technical Staff | megan at savaje.com | | SavaJe Technologies, Inc. | (s/ at /@/) | | 100 Apollo Drive | URL: http://world.std.com/~mbg/ | | Chelmsford, MA 01824 | "pdp-11 programmer - some assembler | | (978) 256 6521 (DEC '77-'98) | required." - mbg KB1FCA | +--------------------------------+-------------------------------------+

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Vintage chips and partz

by jpl15＠panix.com

Surplus and pulls from a 'minicomputer repair shop'... "Memory, logic, drivers, baud rate generators, and much more includes 7400 series 2516's 2716's 4116's 2116's com 5016's includes large bag of assorted chips from a minicomputer repair shop )1980's)" http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4663&item=3816263323… Items are in New York. If they were in Old York, the shippin'd kill ya. This does not apply to Midlands blokes. Cheeerz John

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new finds (Acorn, Sun, Apple)

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

The following turned up yesterday from a couple of skips: Two Acorn 420/1 machines, one with an ST506 drive and the other with an IDE drive and interface. One has an Ethernet board fitted. Both seem to have some sort of CPU upgrade fitted to them. An Acorn A5000, with a board called a "Colourcard" in it - I assume it's some sort of video board with a better spec than the standard video output? I got keyboards and mice for all three machines, which was nice. Also found two seperate Ethernet cards, a whole slew of RiscOS ROMs in a box, Artworks software and a pile of Artworks dongles. Oh, and a collection of the rear panel blanking plates (I'm actually missing those from some of my Acorns, so they'll come in handy :-) I also came away with Sun Sparc 4 (gutted though), a Sun Sparc 10 (memory and CPU board fitted, no hard disk), and a Sun Ultra 1 (also gutted). Couple of Mac LC III's were in the haul too, a couple of Apple Ethernet boards, an Apple SCSI CDROM drive, plus misc. bits - a 760MB full-height SCSI drive, several small-capacity IDE drives, couple of sticks of Sun memory, couple of RS232 gender changers etc. I passed on the huge Apple Quadra tower that was in the skip, and the numerous PCs that were in there... :) Not a bad haul for free though. cheers Jules

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DEC boards

by Lee.Davison＠merlincommunications.com

Found in the bin this weekend at Drayton Manor Radio Rally. One EPROM board with 12 27C010 EPROMs and a label on the back saying "VT1000 2.2". One SIMM carrier board with three 64 pin SIMM slots, one populated with a 1MB SIMM. Are these any use to anyone? I can dump the EPROM contents if needed. I did make a note of the DEC part numbers but left it at home (doh!). Cheers, Lee. ________________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star Internet. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk ________________________________________________________________________

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new finds (Acorn, Sun, Apple)

by cb＠mythtech.net

>I don't think it was *that* good. I'm certain it was only three numbers, >not four. It could well have been a 950 - given the dusty dirty skip it >was lying it it's not impossible to believe that dirt made the 5 look >like a 6 :-) What may be tell tale is, did you actually see the name Quadra on it (I came in late, so I responded before without realizing you called it a Quadra). If so, then it is not a 9600. A large tower with Quadra on the name plate would be a 900 or 950 (there were no 96x in the Quadra line, although there were some 6xx, but no 69x and the 6 series were all desktop cases, not towers). Slightly smaller tower would be the 8xx series A Q950 still isn't a bad machine, but not as big of a deal to abondon (I have a WorkGroup Server 95 which is the Quadra 950 with a different software package). -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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new finds (Acorn, Sun, Apple)

by cb＠mythtech.net

>> Heh - I don't really know Macs at all. I have '960' stuck in my head, >> but I had a quick look on lowendmac.com and didn't see that listed - I >> swear there was a 9 and a 6 in there (I don't think 690 was listed >> either, so who knows!). UGH... go back and get it. You probably left behind a PowerMac 9600! DAMN good Macs. Fully upgradable to a G4 processor, and it has 6 PCI slots (last Mac to have 6 slots, and one of the few to ever have that many). They sell used for $100 with stock processors (200-350 MHz IIRC). Grab it, buy a $100 G3 or G4 processor upgrade, and have a 6 slot OS X runnable Mac (OS X requires the patch from XLR8 to install, but it will work once installed). -chris <http://www.mythtech.net>

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opinions on very long term storage and references from Google search

by mmcfadden＠cmh.edu

\begin opinion Seems like the best method for very long term storage in theory is ion beam on iridium disk More practical methods include the following: I have also heard that using archival quality ink in a retrofitted ink jet printer printed on acid-free paper may work for reasonable amounts of time. The plastic ink particles in laser toner are very susceptible to environmental factors. I know that for land surveys that archival ink using a pen plotter on vellum is "best". \end opinion References http://www.uky.edu/~kiernan/DL/hedstrom.html Digital preservation: a time bomb for Digital Libraries. www.tims-im.ca/Whitepapers/22010v052p.pdf Preserving Information Forever and a Call for Emulators. Archives: Preserving Bits, Formats, Documents, and Wisdom www.berghell.com/ whitepapers/Archives%20-%20Preserving%20Bits,%20Formats,%20Documents,%20 and%20Wisdom.pdf - Mike

21 years, 10 months

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Computer Estate( and collecting)

by rigdonj＠cfl.rr.com

At 02:05 PM 5/17/04 -0400, you wrote: >> 63/37 is the optimal tin/lead alloy; its melting point is a little >> lower than 60/40 alloy. > >I thought the reason 63/37 (or whatever the precise ratio is - I think >it's something like 63.7/36.3, no?) was preferred was that it had a >melting _point_ rather than a melting _range_. (Whether this is tied >to its being the eutectic mixture is something I'm not enough of an >alloy scientist to know.) 63/37 has the lowest melting point and the lowest or close to lowest "plastic" range. The Lyman books on bullet casting have some good explanations and charts on this. Joe

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RSTS/E and PDP 11/23

by pete＠dunnington.u-net.com

On May 17, 17:57, Fred N. van Kempen wrote: > On Mon, 17 May 2004, emanuel stiebler wrote: > > > Both 11/23 and the 11/23+ have 22-bit addresses. Only very early > > revisions of the 11/23 board had 18 bit. > Oh! I learn something every day! I'll check my boards, dunno > whether I have new ones. I do have old ones, since they're Q18. Original 11/23 *backplanes* are 18-bit, though they can be rewired to be 22-bit. AFAIR, the only 18-bit 11/23 CPU was the Rev.A KDF11-A (the first dual-height one). -- Pete Peter Turnbull Network Manager University of York

21 years, 10 months

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IBM AT Free to a Good Home

by bill＠timeguy.com

I have an IBM AT with all original docs and keyboard, in like-new condition from the original owner. It can be yours for the price of shipping. Note that it has an upgrade VGA video card in place of the usual mono or CGA/EGA card, and that it currently will not boot from the hard drive (which is why he finally upgraded to a PC made in the last 20 years). A 14" VGA monitor, IBM ProPrinter, and Okidata 320 printer are also available as part of the bundle. E-mail if you have questions or want the thing. Note that I ship via Mailboxes Etc. so be prepared to pay their packing/shipping rates or arrange to pick it up.

21 years, 10 months

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Computer Estate( and collecting)

by mmcfadden＠cmh.edu

There are many areas of "collectors" that can't give up any parts of their collections. My grandfather had an old corn crib that was full of partial parts and containers of stuff from the orchard and farm. There were tractor parts, mower parts, sprayer parts, wagon parts, and picking bags. You could not just drive to the store for a part when something failed. After he died I looked through it, saved some unique items and it was an education of how farming used to be versus what it is today. I don't think he thought he was a collector just a farmer. Currently I have neighbors who are sailors and their back lots are a collection of boat parts. I have seen more hasty repairs from the collections. The local community would like to clean up "junk" however one person's junk is another's treasure. It's probably related to availability, if you have a broken boat and need a part then the closest part is the best. Then there are the car people! I don't know enough to comment. You have never seen stuff until you meet some "horse people", they have more tack, ribbons and stuff than most. I'm the computer person. The nice thing about computers is they don't eat, and need veterinarians. This weekend is a general community cleanup and I'm keeping my eyes open for any neat computer stuff. Last year I got an HP 7550 pen plotter >from the dumpster. Of course I will have to negotiate with my wife. Mike

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Sparc 10 PSU connector pinout anyone?

by julesrichardsonuk＠yahoo.co.uk

Looks like the Ultra doesn't need any more attention to convince me it's working, so I just tried the Sparc 10. The fans spin, and I'm getting good +5 and +12V on the hard disk power connector, but no power LED and no console activity. I notice that (apart from the pin nearest the PSU, which is at +5V), all the other pins along the frontmost row of the PSU connector register no voltage, which *could* be a problem. Anyone have the proper pinout handy? (At least this machine's on topic :-) cheers Jules

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